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I like the idea. When you say "keep content on their own domain name," do you mean the physical bits are on my servers as the owner of the content, exposed by m

I like the idea. When you say "keep content on their own domain name," do you mean the physical bits are on my servers as the owner of the content, exposed by my custom domain, or do you mean the bits are hosted on PeerTube's servers and merely exposed using my domain? The distinction is important.

riffic 4y ago
an example of this in action: I live in Los Angeles. I want the city to archive its city council meetings on a video platform. Preferably, these would be available from a subdomain of lacity.gov instead of being available through youtube or another company of that sort (there are all sorts of namespace issues with today's approach). The example here doesn't need to be limited strictly to council meetings either, the city could host all sorts of video on its own instance of the PeerTube site. I know there's currently a "LACityClerk" channel, but I'm sure you could find other Youtube channels concerning the fire department, LAPD, Department of Transportation, City Library, etc: https://www.youtube.com/c/LACityClerk/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/LACityClerk/videos I (as a constituent) don't really care about the underlying hosting. Framasoft, seeing as how they are intimately familiar with how Peertube works, can sell that underlying hosting. The benefit for the city is they can centralize administration and control over this rather than just give all their content to Google.
- nathanaldensr 4y ago
  Cool. So if I understand you correctly, you effectively want to decouple hosting (where the bits are) from exposure (how I as a user find and view them).
  - tpxl 4y ago
    I think three models are viable: * Youtube-like website where people post videos * A hosted service on your own domain where they host the videos (like the parent was talking about) * A self hosted version where you host the videos and pay for technical support
  - riffic 4y ago
    I made some edits to my parent comment to further explain my pitch and what the benefit to my hypothetical example city would be if they were to be a Framasoft / Peertube customer.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    The Wordpress equivalent of YouTube, with discovery and federation plug-ins. Anyone can host a Wordpress instance, but you can also pay Automattic to host it for you (your data is also portable and you can move from hosted to self hosted and vice versa).
    - riffic 4y ago
      that should probably be my go-to metaphor here. Automattic seems to be doing okay as a professional WordPress hosting shop. Your clarification about the data being portable is definitely key here.
      - toomuchtodo 4y ago
        You might find these resources of value: https://www.ngi.eu/blog/2021/10/05/internet-trust-accessibility-and-archiving-are-made-easier-by-extending-peertube/ https://www.ngi.eu/blog/2021/10/05/internet-trust-accessibil... https://beeldengeluid.github.io/extending-peertube/ https://beeldengeluid.github.io/extending-peertube/
        riffic 4y ago
        really cool! Cities aren't the only ideal client to make this pitch to either, there are all sorts of art collectives, educators, museums, even commercial interests who would probably benefit to move off of YouTube perhaps simply for the privacy and data collection concerns.
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        toomuchtodo 4y ago
        Agreed. Framasoft really needs to consider becoming the Automattic equivalent to Peertube, which could then spin up the revenue flywheel for further development. Donations have worked so far, but only work up to a point. You need dedicated engineering, product management, customer support, etc if you want to take on Youtube, and the vast majority of customers don't want to do this work themselves (in my experience). They want to provide a payment method and either be turned loose on the product or have their hand held.

riffic 4y ago

an example of this in action: I live in Los Angeles. I want the city to archive its city council meetings on a video platform. Preferably, these would be available from a subdomain of lacity.gov instead of being available through youtube or another company of that sort (there are all sorts of namespace issues with today's approach). The example here doesn't need to be limited strictly to council meetings either, the city could host all sorts of video on its own instance of the PeerTube site. I know there's currently a "LACityClerk" channel, but I'm sure you could find other Youtube channels concerning the fire department, LAPD, Department of Transportation, City Library, etc: https://www.youtube.com/c/LACityClerk/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/LACityClerk/videos I (as a constituent) don't really care about the underlying hosting. Framasoft, seeing as how they are intimately familiar with how Peertube works, can sell that underlying hosting. The benefit for the city is they can centralize administration and control over this rather than just give all their content to Google.

nathanaldensr 4y ago
Cool. So if I understand you correctly, you effectively want to decouple hosting (where the bits are) from exposure (how I as a user find and view them).
- tpxl 4y ago
  I think three models are viable: * Youtube-like website where people post videos * A hosted service on your own domain where they host the videos (like the parent was talking about) * A self hosted version where you host the videos and pay for technical support
- riffic 4y ago
  I made some edits to my parent comment to further explain my pitch and what the benefit to my hypothetical example city would be if they were to be a Framasoft / Peertube customer.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  The Wordpress equivalent of YouTube, with discovery and federation plug-ins. Anyone can host a Wordpress instance, but you can also pay Automattic to host it for you (your data is also portable and you can move from hosted to self hosted and vice versa).
  - riffic 4y ago
    that should probably be my go-to metaphor here. Automattic seems to be doing okay as a professional WordPress hosting shop. Your clarification about the data being portable is definitely key here.
    - toomuchtodo 4y ago
      You might find these resources of value: https://www.ngi.eu/blog/2021/10/05/internet-trust-accessibility-and-archiving-are-made-easier-by-extending-peertube/ https://www.ngi.eu/blog/2021/10/05/internet-trust-accessibil... https://beeldengeluid.github.io/extending-peertube/ https://beeldengeluid.github.io/extending-peertube/
      - riffic 4y ago
        really cool! Cities aren't the only ideal client to make this pitch to either, there are all sorts of art collectives, educators, museums, even commercial interests who would probably benefit to move off of YouTube perhaps simply for the privacy and data collection concerns.
        deleted 4y ago
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        toomuchtodo 4y ago
        Agreed. Framasoft really needs to consider becoming the Automattic equivalent to Peertube, which could then spin up the revenue flywheel for further development. Donations have worked so far, but only work up to a point. You need dedicated engineering, product management, customer support, etc if you want to take on Youtube, and the vast majority of customers don't want to do this work themselves (in my experience). They want to provide a payment method and either be turned loose on the product or have their hand held.