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I assumed most of it stayed in Greek in the Byzantine empire, and then came to Europe after the Fall of Byzantium to the Turks.

by vondur 4y ago

ZeroGravitas 4y ago
That seems to be the common theory for the source of the Greek texts, but before that the Greek philosophy, maths and science seems to have been translated into Latin via Arabic: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelard_of_Bath https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelard_of_Bath > The oldest surviving Latin translation of Euclid's Elements is a 12th-century translation by Adelard from an Arabic version. But he also translated original Arabic work, introducing algebra. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_of_the_Greek_Classics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_of_the_Greek_Cl... It's a complicated enough tale that lots of people get credit over the centuries for keeping the past alive and adding their own layer.
- cafard 4y ago
  It has been a while since I read this, but I believe that until the late 13th Century the Latin versions of Aristotle were translated from Arabic versions, not from Greek.
  - ngcc_hk 4y ago
    No knowledge. But we’re told that translation from Arabic is where https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Renaissance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Renaissance is started. Not detail in wiki though. “ The Italian trade routes that covered the Mediterranean and beyond were also major conduits of culture and knowledge. The recovery of lost Greek classics brought to Italy by refugee Byzantine scholars who migrated during and following the Ottoman conquest of the Byzantine Empire in the 15th century were important in sparking the new linguistic studies of the Renaissance, in newly created academies in Florence and Venice. Humanist scholars searched monastic libraries for ancient manuscripts and recovered Tacitus and other Latin authors. The rediscovery of Vitruvius meant that the architectural principles of Antiquity could be observed once more, and Renaissance artists were encouraged, in the …”

I assumed most of it stayed in Greek in the Byzantine empire, and then came to Europe after the Fall of Byzantium to the Turks.

by vondur 4y ago

I assumed most of it stayed in Greek in the Byzantine empire, and then came to Europe after the Fall of Byzantium to the Turks.

ZeroGravitas 4y ago

That seems to be the common theory for the source of the Greek texts, but before that the Greek philosophy, maths and science seems to have been translated into Latin via Arabic: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelard_of_Bath https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelard_of_Bath > The oldest surviving Latin translation of Euclid's Elements is a 12th-century translation by Adelard from an Arabic version. But he also translated original Arabic work, introducing algebra. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_of_the_Greek_Classics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_of_the_Greek_Cl... It's a complicated enough tale that lots of people get credit over the centuries for keeping the past alive and adding their own layer.

cafard 4y ago
It has been a while since I read this, but I believe that until the late 13th Century the Latin versions of Aristotle were translated from Arabic versions, not from Greek.
- ngcc_hk 4y ago
  No knowledge. But we’re told that translation from Arabic is where https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Renaissance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Renaissance is started. Not detail in wiki though. “ The Italian trade routes that covered the Mediterranean and beyond were also major conduits of culture and knowledge. The recovery of lost Greek classics brought to Italy by refugee Byzantine scholars who migrated during and following the Ottoman conquest of the Byzantine Empire in the 15th century were important in sparking the new linguistic studies of the Renaissance, in newly created academies in Florence and Venice. Humanist scholars searched monastic libraries for ancient manuscripts and recovered Tacitus and other Latin authors. The rediscovery of Vitruvius meant that the architectural principles of Antiquity could be observed once more, and Renaissance artists were encouraged, in the …”