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I also would love to have such device with modern connectivity and decent battery life. And no Android inside please.

by lnsru 4y ago

marcodiego 4y ago
What about the pinephone with the keyboard addon?
- Markoff 4y ago
  he said decent battery life, pretty much any android phone in market has better screen on time than pinephone
jacquesm 4y ago
I can heartily recommend the Nokia N800-tough. It really is tough (you can use it for self defense in a pinch, after two years of heavy daily use it still looks like brand new, not a scratch on it and I don't even bother about putting it in my pocket together with my keyring), battery life is typically 5 days, but many times more than that (to the point that I'll forget to charge it). No touchscreen, just buttons (which could, to be fair be a bit better). The only gripe: some minor software glitches (for instance: bringing up the address book and immediately starting a search can lose the first keystrokes).
- usr1106 4y ago
  Something is not right here, the N800 was no communicator, but what they called Internet tablet. 2 years before the Ipad and a slightly different concept. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>And no Android inside please To be fair, Nokia did release a nearly pure Linux (Meego) based communicator which nobody bought. The ecosystems of Android and iOS means there is no room for competition that can be commercially successful. So if you're building a phone today it will be Android based if you actually want to sell it.
- shaky-carrousel 4y ago
  Hello, I'm nobody, and I bought the Nokia N9.
  - hcarrega 4y ago
    I still have n9, n900 and Jolla 1
    - shaky-carrousel 4y ago
      I had unusual foresight at that time and explicitly bought the N9 because I was sure it was the last good phone from Nokia. And in the end I was pretty right.
- webmobdev 4y ago
  Sailfish OS is still competing and Russia has made it its "official" mobile OS ... Many devices support it too - https://jolla-devices.com/sailfish_devices/ https://jolla-devices.com/sailfish_devices/ ...
  - usr1106 4y ago
    The ties to Russia have been cut. By incindence before the war, but with the war they wouldn't have had any future anyway. Of course lots of the software has open source licences so the Russian can even legally continue to use it. The UI components have a proprietary license. I don't know whether the Russians have the source, but I might guess they do. So they could continue to use it like they do with leased airplanes.
    - webmobdev 4y ago
      There weren't any "ties" with Russia to begin with. (Nor with China, even though Jolla also has some Chinese investors). What I remember is that Russia wanted an alternative to Android OS and ios. Samsung and Jolla pitched their Tizen OS and Sailfish OS respectively to the Russian government. Russia decided to go with Sailfish as Jolla was willing to license the whole source code and be more flexible with its term (partly out of desperation as it needed investment). Then some Russian company started the OMP ( https://tadviser.com/index.php/Company:Open_Mobile_Platform_(CMP) https://tadviser.com/index.php/Company:Open_Mobile_Platform_... ) which licensed Sailfish OS to fork it and develop it as Aurora OS. OMP also committed to contribute code back to Sailfish OS, and aid its continuous development (75% of Sailfish OS is open source so they anyway would have to release the source). This company also invested in, and bought around 10% share of Sailfish holding (Hongkong) one of the investment vehicle created by Jolla. That Russian company then sold 75% of its share to Rostelecom, another Russian corporate (the Russian government owns 45% of the Rostelecom). Rostelecom also acquired 75% share of OMP, which it later increased to 99.9%. So technically, Russia's official mobile OS is a clone of Sailfish OS it rebranded as Aurora OS that is owned by OMP, a Russian company, and not Jolla. Also, after Russia invaded Ukraine, Jolla investors have been trying to cleverly use the anti-russian sentiments to its advantage by trying to convince european investors to buy the shares of Rostelecom. Source (in Finnish): https://www.linkedin.com/posts/samulisimojoki_putinin-hy%C3%B6kk%C3%A4ys-ukrainaan-pakottaa-meist%C3%A4-activity-6904001201180934144-lb4d/ https://www.linkedin.com/posts/samulisimojoki_putinin-hy%C3%... .
webmobdev 4y ago
Checkout Gemini PDA, Cosmo Communicator and Astro Slide 5g - https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/all https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/all ... while they do come with Android, you are not limited to it and can also install Sailfish, Linux (Kali, Debian) and multiboot.
- tluyben2 4y ago
  The Planet devices are nice; I had the first one and it is good (it was so good, someone took the effort to steal it; joke is on them; it was running Linux); I am waiting (less than patiently) for the Slide now.

I also would love to have such device with modern connectivity and decent battery life. And no Android inside please.

by lnsru 4y ago

I also would love to have such device with modern connectivity and decent battery life. And no Android inside please.

marcodiego 4y ago

What about the pinephone with the keyboard addon?

Markoff 4y ago
he said decent battery life, pretty much any android phone in market has better screen on time than pinephone

jacquesm 4y ago

I can heartily recommend the Nokia N800-tough. It really is tough (you can use it for self defense in a pinch, after two years of heavy daily use it still looks like brand new, not a scratch on it and I don't even bother about putting it in my pocket together with my keyring), battery life is typically 5 days, but many times more than that (to the point that I'll forget to charge it). No touchscreen, just buttons (which could, to be fair be a bit better). The only gripe: some minor software glitches (for instance: bringing up the address book and immediately starting a search can lose the first keystrokes).

usr1106 4y ago
Something is not right here, the N800 was no communicator, but what they called Internet tablet. 2 years before the Ipad and a slightly different concept. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

>And no Android inside please To be fair, Nokia did release a nearly pure Linux (Meego) based communicator which nobody bought. The ecosystems of Android and iOS means there is no room for competition that can be commercially successful. So if you're building a phone today it will be Android based if you actually want to sell it.

shaky-carrousel 4y ago
Hello, I'm nobody, and I bought the Nokia N9.
- hcarrega 4y ago
  I still have n9, n900 and Jolla 1
  - shaky-carrousel 4y ago
    I had unusual foresight at that time and explicitly bought the N9 because I was sure it was the last good phone from Nokia. And in the end I was pretty right.
webmobdev 4y ago
Sailfish OS is still competing and Russia has made it its "official" mobile OS ... Many devices support it too - https://jolla-devices.com/sailfish_devices/ https://jolla-devices.com/sailfish_devices/ ...
- usr1106 4y ago
  The ties to Russia have been cut. By incindence before the war, but with the war they wouldn't have had any future anyway. Of course lots of the software has open source licences so the Russian can even legally continue to use it. The UI components have a proprietary license. I don't know whether the Russians have the source, but I might guess they do. So they could continue to use it like they do with leased airplanes.
  - webmobdev 4y ago
    There weren't any "ties" with Russia to begin with. (Nor with China, even though Jolla also has some Chinese investors). What I remember is that Russia wanted an alternative to Android OS and ios. Samsung and Jolla pitched their Tizen OS and Sailfish OS respectively to the Russian government. Russia decided to go with Sailfish as Jolla was willing to license the whole source code and be more flexible with its term (partly out of desperation as it needed investment). Then some Russian company started the OMP ( https://tadviser.com/index.php/Company:Open_Mobile_Platform_(CMP) https://tadviser.com/index.php/Company:Open_Mobile_Platform_... ) which licensed Sailfish OS to fork it and develop it as Aurora OS. OMP also committed to contribute code back to Sailfish OS, and aid its continuous development (75% of Sailfish OS is open source so they anyway would have to release the source). This company also invested in, and bought around 10% share of Sailfish holding (Hongkong) one of the investment vehicle created by Jolla. That Russian company then sold 75% of its share to Rostelecom, another Russian corporate (the Russian government owns 45% of the Rostelecom). Rostelecom also acquired 75% share of OMP, which it later increased to 99.9%. So technically, Russia's official mobile OS is a clone of Sailfish OS it rebranded as Aurora OS that is owned by OMP, a Russian company, and not Jolla. Also, after Russia invaded Ukraine, Jolla investors have been trying to cleverly use the anti-russian sentiments to its advantage by trying to convince european investors to buy the shares of Rostelecom. Source (in Finnish): https://www.linkedin.com/posts/samulisimojoki_putinin-hy%C3%B6kk%C3%A4ys-ukrainaan-pakottaa-meist%C3%A4-activity-6904001201180934144-lb4d/ https://www.linkedin.com/posts/samulisimojoki_putinin-hy%C3%... .

webmobdev 4y ago

Checkout Gemini PDA, Cosmo Communicator and Astro Slide 5g - https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/all https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/all ... while they do come with Android, you are not limited to it and can also install Sailfish, Linux (Kali, Debian) and multiboot.

tluyben2 4y ago
The Planet devices are nice; I had the first one and it is good (it was so good, someone took the effort to steal it; joke is on them; it was running Linux); I am waiting (less than patiently) for the Slide now.