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> Why shouldn't they? Reasonable accommodations.

by dimensi0nal 4y ago

Ekaros 4y ago
- CPLX 4y ago
  Asking a multi-billion dollar company to make reasonable accommodations so Americans who suffer from disabilities can still use their products and services is probably not something you can reasonably compare to slavery.
- alistairSH 4y ago
  The cost should fall on Uber. Or the government. Not the employee or the disabled customer.
  - Ekaros 4y ago
    Exactly. There should be some sort of governmental department where the disabled could file claims for reimbursement with appropriate paper work. Then these claims could be verified and support given in due time. Kinda like insurance work. Even further maybe there could be system of prior authorizations where eligible people can request decisions before using services.
    - alistairSH 4y ago
      Or, just give them a monthly stipend to cover any/all costs. They file once, get thee stupid, maybe re-up annually or every few years. It's not like their costs are going to go away - being disabled is just more costly. Italy has(had?) a similar program for residents with celiac disease (requires a gluten-free diet). It's a max 140 euro/month stipend to cover the higher costs of groceries.
- pkaye 4y ago
  Maybe Uber can pay those workers better.
pxeboot 4y ago
Is it still reasonable if it makes a contractor earn below minimum wage?
- dimensi0nal 4y ago
  Is it still reasonable if it makes a small business spend thousands of dollars on a ramp?
  - frumper 4y ago
    As a society we said that is a reasonable cost of doing business in the US. Reasonable accommodations, it is the law of the land.
    - collegeburner 4y ago
      "the law of the land" is a really shitty argument for supporting something when its questioned. its an unfair burden on small businesses. large enough ones probably get enough business it makes sense to install.
      - frumper 4y ago
        Society had this debate in 1990 and it was more than a super majority that supported ADA. You're welcome to go look up about that debate that made it the law of the land, many people on this board are old enough to remember it. I promise you that people brought up the burden on small businesses back then too. It's not even a hard calculus to make if you're starting a new business. Is it worth it for me to open my business while paying the costs to ensure that everyone has reasonable access to my services. If you choose to put in steps, or have an old building with steps then you can decide the tradeoffs. If you're renting you can probably negotiate those costs with your landlord as the improvements will continue beyond your lease. These aren't surprise costs, they can be made ahead of time to decide if you have a viable business.
        Aerroon 4y ago

> Why shouldn't they? Reasonable accommodations.

Ekaros 4y ago

CPLX 4y ago
Asking a multi-billion dollar company to make reasonable accommodations so Americans who suffer from disabilities can still use their products and services is probably not something you can reasonably compare to slavery.
alistairSH 4y ago
The cost should fall on Uber. Or the government. Not the employee or the disabled customer.
- Ekaros 4y ago
  Exactly. There should be some sort of governmental department where the disabled could file claims for reimbursement with appropriate paper work. Then these claims could be verified and support given in due time. Kinda like insurance work. Even further maybe there could be system of prior authorizations where eligible people can request decisions before using services.
  - alistairSH 4y ago
    Or, just give them a monthly stipend to cover any/all costs. They file once, get thee stupid, maybe re-up annually or every few years. It's not like their costs are going to go away - being disabled is just more costly. Italy has(had?) a similar program for residents with celiac disease (requires a gluten-free diet). It's a max 140 euro/month stipend to cover the higher costs of groceries.
pkaye 4y ago
Maybe Uber can pay those workers better.

pxeboot 4y ago

Is it still reasonable if it makes a contractor earn below minimum wage?

dimensi0nal 4y ago
Is it still reasonable if it makes a small business spend thousands of dollars on a ramp?
- frumper 4y ago
  As a society we said that is a reasonable cost of doing business in the US. Reasonable accommodations, it is the law of the land.
  - collegeburner 4y ago
    "the law of the land" is a really shitty argument for supporting something when its questioned. its an unfair burden on small businesses. large enough ones probably get enough business it makes sense to install.
    - frumper 4y ago
      Society had this debate in 1990 and it was more than a super majority that supported ADA. You're welcome to go look up about that debate that made it the law of the land, many people on this board are old enough to remember it. I promise you that people brought up the burden on small businesses back then too. It's not even a hard calculus to make if you're starting a new business. Is it worth it for me to open my business while paying the costs to ensure that everyone has reasonable access to my services. If you choose to put in steps, or have an old building with steps then you can decide the tradeoffs. If you're renting you can probably negotiate those costs with your landlord as the improvements will continue beyond your lease. These aren't surprise costs, they can be made ahead of time to decide if you have a viable business.
      - Aerroon 4y ago