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Germany needs the EU to offset their aging population and to import younger, skilled workers from neighbouring countries who share similar values. Without this,

Germany needs the EU to offset their aging population and to import younger, skilled workers from neighbouring countries who share similar values. Without this, they'd be already like Japan, South Korea, etc. that is facing an even worse demographic time bomb.

valenterry 4y ago
Germany is even worse off in that regard than Japan and South Korea. However, the EU isn't really needed for that, it just makes it a bit easier.
BlargMcLarg 4y ago
Neighbouring countries have "the same issue". There are close to no people to import with similar values without making matters worse for that country.
- patrickk 4y ago
  I live in Germany, an immigrant myself. Plenty of people from neighbouring countries choose to move here, from France, Spain, Italy, Poland etc. People vote with their feet. If you can’t get a decent career going elsewhere that’s on the local employers and labour market laws.
notch656a 4y ago
Germanies economy is in the shitter* and I have a feeling they will be tightening immigration shortly. *Still a strong economy in the grand scheme of things, but during period of contraction unable to support short-term generalized expansion of foreign labor. I do think they are in a position to expand foreign labor again in the long term (although it may require finding a way to refactor their energy policies).
- patrickk 4y ago
  Tightening immigration isn’t easy with Schengen and other agreements with EU partners. Unless you exclusively mean non-EU migrants. I haven’t seen any proposal from the current government suggesting they’d clamp down on migration when the population is slowly dwindling and there’s a permanent shortage of workers in most industries in Germany.
  - notch656a 4y ago
    Germany does seem to be a case study that open immigration does "work" at least to the extent it hasn't destroyed Germany? The job seeker visa is trivial at least as an American to get, it has me scratching my head why my own country doesn't offer something similar.

valenterry 4y ago

Germany is even worse off in that regard than Japan and South Korea. However, the EU isn't really needed for that, it just makes it a bit easier.

BlargMcLarg 4y ago

Neighbouring countries have "the same issue". There are close to no people to import with similar values without making matters worse for that country.

patrickk 4y ago
I live in Germany, an immigrant myself. Plenty of people from neighbouring countries choose to move here, from France, Spain, Italy, Poland etc. People vote with their feet. If you can’t get a decent career going elsewhere that’s on the local employers and labour market laws.

notch656a 4y ago

Germanies economy is in the shitter* and I have a feeling they will be tightening immigration shortly. *Still a strong economy in the grand scheme of things, but during period of contraction unable to support short-term generalized expansion of foreign labor. I do think they are in a position to expand foreign labor again in the long term (although it may require finding a way to refactor their energy policies).

patrickk 4y ago
Tightening immigration isn’t easy with Schengen and other agreements with EU partners. Unless you exclusively mean non-EU migrants. I haven’t seen any proposal from the current government suggesting they’d clamp down on migration when the population is slowly dwindling and there’s a permanent shortage of workers in most industries in Germany.
- notch656a 4y ago
  Germany does seem to be a case study that open immigration does "work" at least to the extent it hasn't destroyed Germany? The job seeker visa is trivial at least as an American to get, it has me scratching my head why my own country doesn't offer something similar.