> To hear Russia tell it, Ukraine has bombed a lot of children in the last 8 years and was committing genocide in East Ukraine. Russia likes to tell a lot of l

> To hear Russia tell it, Ukraine has bombed a lot of children in the last 8 years and was committing genocide in East Ukraine. Russia likes to tell a lot of lies and half truths to muddy the waters of everything I wouldn't trust what they they also generally don't provide any solid evidence of any of there claims either, just take these examples. "Russian State Media Claims to Discover Militarized Ukrainian Witches". https://www.vice.com/en/article/dypmpk/russian-state-media-claims-to-discover-militarized-ukrainian-witches https://www.vice.com/en/article/dypmpk/russian-state-media-c... "Russian lawmakers baselessly claim their army is up against biologically modified Ukrainian super soldiers" https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-lawmakers-tout-baseless-claims-ukrainian-super-soldiers-2022-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-lawmakers-tout-basel... "U.S. Ramps Up Ukraine Warnings as Russia Denies Invasion Plans" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-17/russia-tells-u-s-no-ukraine-invasion-planned-tass-says https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-17/russia-te... Russian state media just cannot be trusted to tell the truth, I wouldn't believe a single word they say. > Note: I personally have no ability to determine the truth of the Russian side beyond reading the wikipedia page and noting it plausible. This would be a mistake, the "firehose of falsehood" is a well known Russian tactic, they lie constantly just to muddy the water. All you need to do is look at MH70 (the civilian airliner that Russian troops pretending to be separatists shot down) to see it in action, before it was publicly revealed to be a airliner they where posing with pictures of the wreckage and bragging about downing a Ukrainian military plane then when it was revealed what happened a whole bunch of Russian pushed conspiracy theories started popping up regarding it. > I wonder if you have some extra information on things like how many civilian causalties occurred in the Donbas before 2022. Because of the way that Russia lies and muddies the water, the real numbers will never be known just look at how little casualties they are claiming on their side for the current war. > or what the real support for Crimea joining Russia was? Again because of the tactics the Russians use this will never be actually known. But maybe once Ukraine retakes Crimea we may know more.