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I thought the comment was a pretty straightforward projection of events based on the current direction of American politics, especially the conservative trend o

I thought the comment was a pretty straightforward projection of events based on the current direction of American politics, especially the conservative trend of violent and dehumanizing rhetoric, and simply extrapolating based on historical precedent. Given other comments and a few upvotes, I'm not alone in that assessment. Checking your comment and post history it's quite obvious why you've taken exception to it. But you're a long-time HNer, maybe you're reasonable. Could you talk to your fellow conservatives and ask them to stop threatening the lives of their fellow Americans? People have been killed this year already by real nutjobs who were inspired by it. Just a thought. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/us/politics/republican-violent-rhetoric.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/us/politics/republican-vi...

giardini 4y ago
russellbeattie sez> "..could you talk to your fellow conservatives and ask them to stop threatening the lives of their fellow Americans?"< I don't know any conservatives who are threatening anyone. But I'm talking to you and so I ask that you tone it down and quit promoting paranoid BS. If your news stream frightens you, then I suggest you take Joe Biden's advice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mztxHgYQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mztxHgYQo (pretty good song, eh!8-)) The URL you posted https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/us/politics/republican-violent-rhetoric.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/us/politics/republican-vi... mentions no particular killings. The article states that threats are being made from the right. It fails to mention threats and real violence from the left(e.g., BLM rioting, etc.). The article is a slightly better-written continuation of the river of bullshit being posted on this HN topic today. Also, consider your source: nytimes is shifting further and further left each month. Dang needs to step into this gusher of BS and cap off the well. Why is this topic not yet closed? It is clearly not useful to a rational person (yes, yes, I have ceased to follow it), it being little more than a venting of anger on all sides, esp. the liberal side. Or maybe this HN topic is a honeytrap intended to lure out whackjobs from all sides, so our friends in 3-letter agencies can practice using the Internet tools that Snowden et al gave away?
- russellbeattie 4y ago
  LOL. Was your whinging to dang about the thread (twice) some sort of attempt to get it or me cancelled because the comments hurt your feelings?? Awesome. Here's a hint: The only way someone could be insulted by pure hypotheticals is if it actually applies to themselves. You've called me a nutball and whackjob (directly or by innuendo), which as I'm sure you are well aware, is against HN rules of civility. I actually accidentally break this rule all the time, but in this instance I really don't need to worry, as I'm sure you already know exactly what I think of you, so I don't need to elaborate.
  - giardini 4y ago
    I don't think this entire discussion has proven informative or useful here on HN, ergo my request to Dang. I'm not singling you out, I'm saying that the entire set of posts on this topic is a waste of our time and the topic should be shut down. You're taking this discussion personally. Don't! I don't intend to "cancel" anyone and think the whole idea is a breach of rationality, ethics and etiquette. Just some good manners is necessary. Even a heated discussion with overreach is good. Discussion w/o emotional motivation/expression is rarely productive. And remember, in any discussion, it is clear that you should not care (beyond etiquette and the law) what anyone else thinks of you. Otherwise you will censor your own true thoughts and others will fail to get your message. Then we all lose. That is part of free speech (an old idea, but a good one, perhaps not commonly in use currently).

giardini 4y ago

russellbeattie sez> "..could you talk to your fellow conservatives and ask them to stop threatening the lives of their fellow Americans?"< I don't know any conservatives who are threatening anyone. But I'm talking to you and so I ask that you tone it down and quit promoting paranoid BS. If your news stream frightens you, then I suggest you take Joe Biden's advice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mztxHgYQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mztxHgYQo (pretty good song, eh!8-)) The URL you posted https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/us/politics/republican-violent-rhetoric.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/us/politics/republican-vi... mentions no particular killings. The article states that threats are being made from the right. It fails to mention threats and real violence from the left(e.g., BLM rioting, etc.). The article is a slightly better-written continuation of the river of bullshit being posted on this HN topic today. Also, consider your source: nytimes is shifting further and further left each month. Dang needs to step into this gusher of BS and cap off the well. Why is this topic not yet closed? It is clearly not useful to a rational person (yes, yes, I have ceased to follow it), it being little more than a venting of anger on all sides, esp. the liberal side. Or maybe this HN topic is a honeytrap intended to lure out whackjobs from all sides, so our friends in 3-letter agencies can practice using the Internet tools that Snowden et al gave away?

russellbeattie 4y ago
LOL. Was your whinging to dang about the thread (twice) some sort of attempt to get it or me cancelled because the comments hurt your feelings?? Awesome. Here's a hint: The only way someone could be insulted by pure hypotheticals is if it actually applies to themselves. You've called me a nutball and whackjob (directly or by innuendo), which as I'm sure you are well aware, is against HN rules of civility. I actually accidentally break this rule all the time, but in this instance I really don't need to worry, as I'm sure you already know exactly what I think of you, so I don't need to elaborate.
- giardini 4y ago
  I don't think this entire discussion has proven informative or useful here on HN, ergo my request to Dang. I'm not singling you out, I'm saying that the entire set of posts on this topic is a waste of our time and the topic should be shut down. You're taking this discussion personally. Don't! I don't intend to "cancel" anyone and think the whole idea is a breach of rationality, ethics and etiquette. Just some good manners is necessary. Even a heated discussion with overreach is good. Discussion w/o emotional motivation/expression is rarely productive. And remember, in any discussion, it is clear that you should not care (beyond etiquette and the law) what anyone else thinks of you. Otherwise you will censor your own true thoughts and others will fail to get your message. Then we all lose. That is part of free speech (an old idea, but a good one, perhaps not commonly in use currently).