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I can think of a few things, such as official Ubuntu support, better support for multiple displays, ability to run x86 apps including windows and games. And al

I can think of a few things, such as official Ubuntu support, better support for multiple displays, ability to run x86 apps including windows and games. And also not overheating like the m2 does, but honestly at this point who knows if the dell doesn't have the same problem...

EUROCARE 4y ago
Everybody who ever had a Dell knows it has the same problem but much worse...
- ht85 4y ago
  I have had various XPS 15 and I don't agree. The biggest source of thermal issue comes from discrete graphics (nvidia) in powered state. Disabling it (which I know can be tricky on linux) or opting for a machine with integrated graphics solves it. As for the CPU you get to pick your poison. With hyper-threading and turbo-boost, fans will be spinning most of the time. If you disable both you get 100% passive cooling.
  - EUROCARE 4y ago
    If I disabled both, the computer (which had i9) got less usable than my current fanless M1 Air.
senttoschool 4y ago
> I can think of a few things, such as official Ubuntu support, better support for multiple displays, ability to run x86 apps including windows and games. Hence, the "average user". Also, I wouldn't try to play games on the Dell as it has a weaker GPU and no function keys. > And also not overheating like the m2 does, but honestly at this point who knows if the dell doesn't have the same problem... M2 does not "overheat". It throttles like any CPU. It should still run cooler, faster, quieter than the Dell.
- rowanG077 4y ago
  The M2 is significantly slower in multithreaded compared to the mid-range Dell XPS 13 Plus and a miniscule amount faster in single threaded. You can see this list: https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-list/cinebench-scores https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-list/cinebench-scores But in addition the M2 air runs hotter. They both throttle. But the M2 reaches over 100 degrees. You can see in this review: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/56837-dell-xps-13-plus-9320-review/ https://www.ultrabookreview.com/56837-dell-xps-13-plus-9320-... That XPS 13 plus settles at around a continuous cinebench scores of ~1515. While the first run was 1795. That means it has a stability of about 84%. In contrast look at the M2 Air: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15V44ovoUWE&t=8m2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15V44ovoUWE&t=8m2s It's not the same cinebench version so the scores are not directly comparable but the stability is. The M2 settles to around 7300 with the initial score being 8551. That gives a stability of 85%. About the same as the XPS. Anyway if you want a fast ultra portable neither Apple nor Intel are good choices. You have to get an and MAD 6000 series laptop.
  - senttoschool 4y ago
    >The M2 is significantly slower in multithreaded compared to the mid-range Dell XPS 13 Plus and a miniscule amount faster in single threaded. You can see this list: https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-list/cinebench-scores https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-list/cinebench-scores Cinebench is a terrible CPU benchmark. Geekbench is far better. https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/pitid6/eli5_why_does_it_seem_like_cinebench_is_now_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/pitid6/eli5_why_d... >But in addition the M2 air runs hotter. They both throttle. But the M2 reaches over 100 degrees. I used an M1 Air for over a year. While it can get hot if you run it a maximum, it runs extremely cool for being fanless on normal workloads. Most people aren't pushing their laptops to the max. >That XPS 13 plus settles at around a continuous cinebench scores of ~1515. While the first run was 1795. That means it has a stability of about 84%. Again, Cinebench is a terrible CPU benchmark. >Anyway if you want a fast ultra portable neither Apple nor Intel are good choices. You have to get an and MAD 6000 series laptop. Simply not true. Both Intel and Apple offer faster laptop chips than AMD.
    - 4y ago

EUROCARE 4y ago

Everybody who ever had a Dell knows it has the same problem but much worse...

ht85 4y ago
I have had various XPS 15 and I don't agree. The biggest source of thermal issue comes from discrete graphics (nvidia) in powered state. Disabling it (which I know can be tricky on linux) or opting for a machine with integrated graphics solves it. As for the CPU you get to pick your poison. With hyper-threading and turbo-boost, fans will be spinning most of the time. If you disable both you get 100% passive cooling.
- EUROCARE 4y ago
  If I disabled both, the computer (which had i9) got less usable than my current fanless M1 Air.

senttoschool 4y ago

> I can think of a few things, such as official Ubuntu support, better support for multiple displays, ability to run x86 apps including windows and games. Hence, the "average user". Also, I wouldn't try to play games on the Dell as it has a weaker GPU and no function keys. > And also not overheating like the m2 does, but honestly at this point who knows if the dell doesn't have the same problem... M2 does not "overheat". It throttles like any CPU. It should still run cooler, faster, quieter than the Dell.

rowanG077 4y ago
The M2 is significantly slower in multithreaded compared to the mid-range Dell XPS 13 Plus and a miniscule amount faster in single threaded. You can see this list: https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-list/cinebench-scores https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-list/cinebench-scores But in addition the M2 air runs hotter. They both throttle. But the M2 reaches over 100 degrees. You can see in this review: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/56837-dell-xps-13-plus-9320-review/ https://www.ultrabookreview.com/56837-dell-xps-13-plus-9320-... That XPS 13 plus settles at around a continuous cinebench scores of ~1515. While the first run was 1795. That means it has a stability of about 84%. In contrast look at the M2 Air: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15V44ovoUWE&t=8m2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15V44ovoUWE&t=8m2s It's not the same cinebench version so the scores are not directly comparable but the stability is. The M2 settles to around 7300 with the initial score being 8551. That gives a stability of 85%. About the same as the XPS. Anyway if you want a fast ultra portable neither Apple nor Intel are good choices. You have to get an and MAD 6000 series laptop.
- senttoschool 4y ago
  >The M2 is significantly slower in multithreaded compared to the mid-range Dell XPS 13 Plus and a miniscule amount faster in single threaded. You can see this list: https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-list/cinebench-scores https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-list/cinebench-scores Cinebench is a terrible CPU benchmark. Geekbench is far better. https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/pitid6/eli5_why_does_it_seem_like_cinebench_is_now_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/pitid6/eli5_why_d... >But in addition the M2 air runs hotter. They both throttle. But the M2 reaches over 100 degrees. I used an M1 Air for over a year. While it can get hot if you run it a maximum, it runs extremely cool for being fanless on normal workloads. Most people aren't pushing their laptops to the max. >That XPS 13 plus settles at around a continuous cinebench scores of ~1515. While the first run was 1795. That means it has a stability of about 84%. Again, Cinebench is a terrible CPU benchmark. >Anyway if you want a fast ultra portable neither Apple nor Intel are good choices. You have to get an and MAD 6000 series laptop. Simply not true. Both Intel and Apple offer faster laptop chips than AMD.
  - 4y ago