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I don't really care about profanity in speeches; I think the stronger argument was made by Rob Conery: I'm not opposed to swearing in presentations, or anywher

by ender7 15y ago

I don't really care about profanity in speeches; I think the stronger argument was made by Rob Conery: I'm not opposed to swearing in presentations, or anywhere for that matter. I don't cringe when I read F-bombs nor do I care if you have the word "Fuck" embroidered on your Calvins. Swearing says more about your abilities as a speaker then it does your content... that's the problem. http://wekeroad.com/2011/11/08/some-people-not-have-way http://wekeroad.com/2011/11/08/some-people-not-have-way Profanity can be a great way to drive your point home. It can also be a crutch, one that lets you avoid having to actually come up with something interesting to say.

bradleyland 15y ago
I was thinking the same thing: that Zach missed Rob's point a bit (but not entirely). Then again, I was assuming his response was written for Rob. I didn't read Hanselman's post. Their point is, apparently, that using swear words in your presentation is trite and pedestrian. All I can do is shrug my shoulders. I really enjoy Zach's presentations, and I hope he keeps doing what he's doing.
fbuilesv 15y ago
Swearing, as shown by many presenters, can also have a positive effect on your talks. Zach mentions most of the reasons why in his article. Attacking a person instead of the content of his talk for using a word is ridiculous. Would someone say that Zach's talk was bad and that was using the word "fuck" to help himself? I agree with you in the statement: Profanity can be a great way to drive your point home. If that is true then Conery's argument, in the derogatory form he uses, makes no sense. PS: Referring to "fuck/fucking" by using "the F-bomb" makes the person look just... bad.
- dorian-graph 15y ago
  Can we judge someone by their choice of words? Or rather, by what they allow out of their mouth? When people become completely adjusted to swearing and it no longer helps 'drive a point home' (For some people), what will these people rely on then?

by ender7 15y ago

bradleyland 15y ago

I was thinking the same thing: that Zach missed Rob's point a bit (but not entirely). Then again, I was assuming his response was written for Rob. I didn't read Hanselman's post. Their point is, apparently, that using swear words in your presentation is trite and pedestrian. All I can do is shrug my shoulders. I really enjoy Zach's presentations, and I hope he keeps doing what he's doing.

fbuilesv 15y ago

Swearing, as shown by many presenters, can also have a positive effect on your talks. Zach mentions most of the reasons why in his article. Attacking a person instead of the content of his talk for using a word is ridiculous. Would someone say that Zach's talk was bad and that was using the word "fuck" to help himself? I agree with you in the statement: Profanity can be a great way to drive your point home. If that is true then Conery's argument, in the derogatory form he uses, makes no sense. PS: Referring to "fuck/fucking" by using "the F-bomb" makes the person look just... bad.

dorian-graph 15y ago
Can we judge someone by their choice of words? Or rather, by what they allow out of their mouth? When people become completely adjusted to swearing and it no longer helps 'drive a point home' (For some people), what will these people rely on then?