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I've lived in MI for the past 7 years, and MN before that (I still have family there). Construction in MI seems to have ramped up quite a bit lately, but is sti

by uluyol 4y ago

I've lived in MI for the past 7 years, and MN before that (I still have family there). Construction in MI seems to have ramped up quite a bit lately, but is still not comparable to the amount of rebuilding that goes on in MN. There's definitely progress, but there's still a long way before I would consider the situation good.

jimkleiber 4y ago
Oh yes, I don't think the roads are in the condition in which I'd like them to be, I also wonder why the roads in Michigan seem so bad and maybe it really is just the lack of construction. Just read an article by Crain's Detroit from earlier this year[0] talking about how it may mostly just be underfunding of road repair, as: > Michigan's current system at the state level relies solely on fuel consumption and the value of vehicles to generate revenue for roads. I wonder how Minnesota fares in terms of budget for roads. Also just read this on r/civilengineering[1]: > Civil Engineer/Construction PM in Michigan. It’s a combination of three things. > 1. Money, for both construction and routine maintenance. Our government is trying to fix this but it’s all political > 2. Climate. Roads in southern states will naturally be nicer because less freeze/thaw & de-icing chemicals on the roads > 3. Weight limits. Because of the auto industry, Michigan has one of the heaviest loads allowed on our freeways. People will say it’s spread across more axles to counter this but I personally have my doubts. And finally, one more list[2]. [0]: https://www.crainsdetroit.com/crains-forum/why-are-michigans-roads-so-bad https://www.crainsdetroit.com/crains-forum/why-are-michigans... [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/civilengineering/comments/vtjnxz/comment/if7whdn/ https://www.reddit.com/r/civilengineering/comments/vtjnxz/co... [2]: https://www.moneybeagle.com/michigan-roads-bad-10-things-know/ https://www.moneybeagle.com/michigan-roads-bad-10-things-kno...

by uluyol 4y ago

jimkleiber 4y ago

Oh yes, I don't think the roads are in the condition in which I'd like them to be, I also wonder why the roads in Michigan seem so bad and maybe it really is just the lack of construction. Just read an article by Crain's Detroit from earlier this year[0] talking about how it may mostly just be underfunding of road repair, as: > Michigan's current system at the state level relies solely on fuel consumption and the value of vehicles to generate revenue for roads. I wonder how Minnesota fares in terms of budget for roads. Also just read this on r/civilengineering[1]: > Civil Engineer/Construction PM in Michigan. It’s a combination of three things. > 1. Money, for both construction and routine maintenance. Our government is trying to fix this but it’s all political > 2. Climate. Roads in southern states will naturally be nicer because less freeze/thaw & de-icing chemicals on the roads > 3. Weight limits. Because of the auto industry, Michigan has one of the heaviest loads allowed on our freeways. People will say it’s spread across more axles to counter this but I personally have my doubts. And finally, one more list[2]. [0]: https://www.crainsdetroit.com/crains-forum/why-are-michigans-roads-so-bad https://www.crainsdetroit.com/crains-forum/why-are-michigans... [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/civilengineering/comments/vtjnxz/comment/if7whdn/ https://www.reddit.com/r/civilengineering/comments/vtjnxz/co... [2]: https://www.moneybeagle.com/michigan-roads-bad-10-things-know/ https://www.moneybeagle.com/michigan-roads-bad-10-things-kno...