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Well some people say if you are getting offended by "inappropriate" jokes that's basically your problem, not the problem of the majority of people there having

by zyb09 15y ago

Well some people say if you are getting offended by "inappropriate" jokes that's basically your problem, not the problem of the majority of people there having fun. After all its just jokes, as in having humour. At a developer conference you shouldn't be so critical about it.

georgieporgie 15y ago
Well some people say if you are getting offended by "inappropriate" jokes that's basically your problem, not the problem of the majority of people there having fun. Do you honestly not see any problem with that line of thought? I'm curious, how old are you?
- dextorious 15y ago
  I'm 35 and I honestly don't see any problem with that line of thought. But then again, I'm not a WASP, and I'm not into political correctness either.
  - georgieporgie 15y ago
    You seem to be employing exactly the same line of thinking that is used by people to justify harassment of all sorts. It's fundamentally selfish and entitled. I see that you're going to deploy the "political correctness" strawman, though, so I don't think I'll make any headway here.
    - dextorious 15y ago
      """You seem to be employing exactly the same line of thinking that is used by people to justify harassment of all sorts. It's fundamentally selfish and entitled. """ No, forbidding people to make jokes because some tiny minority might find it offensive is "fundamentally selfish and entitled". Forbidding people to make jokes because you feel offended by them, even more so. And, btw, you failed to even define what that "line of thinking" is, you just accused me of "employing" it. """I see that you're going to deploy the "political correctness" strawman, though, so I don't think I'll make any headway here.""" What is this, your personal Godwin's law? Since when "political correctness", especially in a situation where it exactly applies, is a "strawman"? It's true though, you won't make any headway here. Not with this kind of crap arguments.
      - georgieporgie 15y ago
        No, forbidding people to make jokes because some tiny minority might find it offensive is "fundamentally selfish and entitled". No, it's professionalism, consideration, and standards of behavior. you failed to even define what that "line of thinking" is, you just accused me of "employing" it. You explained your line of thinking pretty well: Well some people say if you are getting offended by "inappropriate" jokes that's basically your problem, not the problem of the majority of people there having fun What is this, your personal Godwin's law? Since when "political correctness", especially in a situation where it exactly applies, is a "strawman"? Because there is nothing here about political correctness. This is about professionalism, consideration, and maturity. Additionally, the term "politically correct" is used as a pejorative these days, so it's of little value. Not with this kind of crap arguments. Please take your attitude back to Reddit.
        dextorious 15y ago
        Professionalism, and standards of behavior and maturity? Isn't that the exact same reasons given by pointy haired managers against wearing jeans at work? That is not professionalism, that is giving the appearance of a "professional" to people who don't know any better. Professionalism lies in being honest with your clients, delivering, and keeping the standards of quality of your trade (IT in our case), not of the jokes you tell. And it's funny how, say, Star Wars jokes would have been totally fine with the audience, but a reference to tits and the gates of hell open. Again, "professionalism" is not what's under attack here, it's the prudes. """Because there is nothing here about political correctness. This is about professionalism, consideration, and maturity.""" Are you under the impression that if you repeat a sentence two or more times, you make it an argument? This is exactly what you wrote in your opening paragraph, and you failed to give any justification. So, I insist: this is all about "political correctness" --and the fact that you invoke "consideration", " standards of behavior" and "maturity" only gives this more credit. Isn't PC a set of "standards of behavior" that are all about "consideration"? As for the "Additionally, the term "politically correct" is used as a pejorative these days, so it's of little value" argument, I can't even begin to describe how lame it is. """Please take your attitude back to Reddit.""" I've never been a Reddit member, and I don't define myself as a HN member either, it's just a page I read. What are you, fifteen years old (mentally), to define yourself by some site you frequent? And you were ranting about "professionalism" earlier? Right.

by zyb09 15y ago

georgieporgie 15y ago

Well some people say if you are getting offended by "inappropriate" jokes that's basically your problem, not the problem of the majority of people there having fun. Do you honestly not see any problem with that line of thought? I'm curious, how old are you?

dextorious 15y ago
I'm 35 and I honestly don't see any problem with that line of thought. But then again, I'm not a WASP, and I'm not into political correctness either.
- georgieporgie 15y ago
  You seem to be employing exactly the same line of thinking that is used by people to justify harassment of all sorts. It's fundamentally selfish and entitled. I see that you're going to deploy the "political correctness" strawman, though, so I don't think I'll make any headway here.
  - dextorious 15y ago
    """You seem to be employing exactly the same line of thinking that is used by people to justify harassment of all sorts. It's fundamentally selfish and entitled. """ No, forbidding people to make jokes because some tiny minority might find it offensive is "fundamentally selfish and entitled". Forbidding people to make jokes because you feel offended by them, even more so. And, btw, you failed to even define what that "line of thinking" is, you just accused me of "employing" it. """I see that you're going to deploy the "political correctness" strawman, though, so I don't think I'll make any headway here.""" What is this, your personal Godwin's law? Since when "political correctness", especially in a situation where it exactly applies, is a "strawman"? It's true though, you won't make any headway here. Not with this kind of crap arguments.
    - georgieporgie 15y ago
      No, forbidding people to make jokes because some tiny minority might find it offensive is "fundamentally selfish and entitled". No, it's professionalism, consideration, and standards of behavior. you failed to even define what that "line of thinking" is, you just accused me of "employing" it. You explained your line of thinking pretty well: Well some people say if you are getting offended by "inappropriate" jokes that's basically your problem, not the problem of the majority of people there having fun What is this, your personal Godwin's law? Since when "political correctness", especially in a situation where it exactly applies, is a "strawman"? Because there is nothing here about political correctness. This is about professionalism, consideration, and maturity. Additionally, the term "politically correct" is used as a pejorative these days, so it's of little value. Not with this kind of crap arguments. Please take your attitude back to Reddit.
      - dextorious 15y ago
        Professionalism, and standards of behavior and maturity? Isn't that the exact same reasons given by pointy haired managers against wearing jeans at work? That is not professionalism, that is giving the appearance of a "professional" to people who don't know any better. Professionalism lies in being honest with your clients, delivering, and keeping the standards of quality of your trade (IT in our case), not of the jokes you tell. And it's funny how, say, Star Wars jokes would have been totally fine with the audience, but a reference to tits and the gates of hell open. Again, "professionalism" is not what's under attack here, it's the prudes. """Because there is nothing here about political correctness. This is about professionalism, consideration, and maturity.""" Are you under the impression that if you repeat a sentence two or more times, you make it an argument? This is exactly what you wrote in your opening paragraph, and you failed to give any justification. So, I insist: this is all about "political correctness" --and the fact that you invoke "consideration", " standards of behavior" and "maturity" only gives this more credit. Isn't PC a set of "standards of behavior" that are all about "consideration"? As for the "Additionally, the term "politically correct" is used as a pejorative these days, so it's of little value" argument, I can't even begin to describe how lame it is. """Please take your attitude back to Reddit.""" I've never been a Reddit member, and I don't define myself as a HN member either, it's just a page I read. What are you, fifteen years old (mentally), to define yourself by some site you frequent? And you were ranting about "professionalism" earlier? Right.