Your other comments indicate you agree with involuntary holds. These usually do no good and remove agency form the person. What actually works is a more tender

Your other comments indicate you agree with involuntary holds. These usually do no good and remove agency form the person. What actually works is a more tender individualized intervention, but of course that is expensive and family may not know of warning signs. Some of the worst people I've met are the EMTs who do these calls. Some believe they are doing no harm. They are worth killing, and I am not sure whether I could avoid doing that if someone exposed themselves like that to me.