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Having used iPhones since the very earliest ones, I also fear this might turn it into an Android situation. I like iPhone because I know it’s likely the page wo

Having used iPhones since the very earliest ones, I also fear this might turn it into an Android situation. I like iPhone because I know it’s likely the page works in Safari since iOS+Safari is a large customer group. While choice, a diverse web, competition & all that is important, I personally wouldn’t want anything but a walled garden monoculture in most cases. Being able to integrate a different voice assistant?? Sideloading apps as an advanced user concept sounds great. But if users who switch on their iPhone for the first time had to @choose a store”, that would be an absolutely terrible UX.

mission_failed 4y ago
Using Android really sucks. I hate being able to install whatever browser I want and old versions of apps
- mmastrac 4y ago
  I realize it's sarcasm, but my Android has the ability to run whatever I want on it and I just use it for a handful of things that Google won't allow. That's all I need. It's not a free-for-all or a virus-laden hellscape. It's just freedom.
- alkonaut 4y ago
  Sideloading on iOS would be great but that’s an unimportant point in this article compared to “user chooses App Store and voice assistant”
theplumber 4y ago
>> I know it’s likely the page works in Safari since iOS+Safari is a large customer group That until you find out some of the best web technologies are not working on safari(i.e indexeddb has been left unfixed for years on purpose by apple). I don't think people would like a safari only on desktop. Why would they want that on mobile?
- alkonaut 4y ago
  I don’t really care about modern web tech I’m happy so long as web pages I visit work and lay out properly. (I don’t do web dev so I don’t need to professionally worry about the IE6-issues of having a large but slow moving target)
  - theplumber 4y ago
    >> I don’t really care about modern web tech Then you shouldn't have an opinion on modern web tech. Stick to what you care of. >> I don’t do web dev so I don’t need to professionally worry about the IE6 Mobile safari is the IE6 of the modern web but as you don't do web dev you don't need to worry about it. Let the people who build for the web worry about the web. >> I’m happy so long as web pages I visit work and lay out properly. Simple text Webpages were workig on IE6 too so I can only assume that the transition from IE6 to Safari mobile was a smooth for you.
- d12bb 4y ago
  Part of why I like Apple products is because they tend to have more apps made natively and well fitting into the ecosystem. I don't want web apps which use double the energy, don't look and feel like they were designed for iPhone/Mac. And I use Safari because it does everything it has to (display information) while using the least energy for it. I've yet to see any really good web app, no matter the browser or device.
  - theplumber 4y ago
    >> I don't want web apps which use double the energy, don't look and feel like they were designed for iPhone/Mac. Then don't use web apps. You can still use only native apps and safari just like people could (until recently) use win32 apps and internet explorer.

mission_failed 4y ago

Using Android really sucks. I hate being able to install whatever browser I want and old versions of apps

mmastrac 4y ago
I realize it's sarcasm, but my Android has the ability to run whatever I want on it and I just use it for a handful of things that Google won't allow. That's all I need. It's not a free-for-all or a virus-laden hellscape. It's just freedom.
alkonaut 4y ago
Sideloading on iOS would be great but that’s an unimportant point in this article compared to “user chooses App Store and voice assistant”

theplumber 4y ago

>> I know it’s likely the page works in Safari since iOS+Safari is a large customer group That until you find out some of the best web technologies are not working on safari(i.e indexeddb has been left unfixed for years on purpose by apple). I don't think people would like a safari only on desktop. Why would they want that on mobile?

alkonaut 4y ago
I don’t really care about modern web tech I’m happy so long as web pages I visit work and lay out properly. (I don’t do web dev so I don’t need to professionally worry about the IE6-issues of having a large but slow moving target)
- theplumber 4y ago
  >> I don’t really care about modern web tech Then you shouldn't have an opinion on modern web tech. Stick to what you care of. >> I don’t do web dev so I don’t need to professionally worry about the IE6 Mobile safari is the IE6 of the modern web but as you don't do web dev you don't need to worry about it. Let the people who build for the web worry about the web. >> I’m happy so long as web pages I visit work and lay out properly. Simple text Webpages were workig on IE6 too so I can only assume that the transition from IE6 to Safari mobile was a smooth for you.
d12bb 4y ago
Part of why I like Apple products is because they tend to have more apps made natively and well fitting into the ecosystem. I don't want web apps which use double the energy, don't look and feel like they were designed for iPhone/Mac. And I use Safari because it does everything it has to (display information) while using the least energy for it. I've yet to see any really good web app, no matter the browser or device.
- theplumber 4y ago
  >> I don't want web apps which use double the energy, don't look and feel like they were designed for iPhone/Mac. Then don't use web apps. You can still use only native apps and safari just like people could (until recently) use win32 apps and internet explorer.