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Insult a synonym for verbal attack

by ls15 4y ago

cowtools 4y ago
So it is unacceptable now to merely insult other users? You can act coy about the meaning of this, but the usage of such language is obvious. It is trying to compare a voluntary public exchange between anonymous internet users to acts of physical violence. The usage of that word there is essentially an underhanded attempt at justifying future censorship through its ambiguous meaning. When moderators agree with the "attacked" the message becomes a bannable offense, but when moderators agree with the "attacker" the message becomes "fair criticism".
- jfengel 4y ago
  Yes. It is unacceptable now to merely insult other users, on their platform. As well as this one.
  - cowtools 4y ago
    Whose platform is it? It's the users that make the forum valuable. Anyone can administrate a web forum. The individuals and communities should decide what speech is acceptable for them, not some unaccountable bureaucrats. I think there is a time and place for insults and flamewars. Maybe not everywhere all the time, but what you are seeing on the web today is selective enforcement of "politeness" and "civility" rules to benefit whatever side of the "flamewar" that the moderators approve of. HN is a good forum insofar as the users think that admins enforce reasonable rules and users agree to abide by those rules and not evade bans. On HN, moderation is rather sophisticated and neutral. When that changes I'll leave.
    - ls15 4y ago
      > Whose platform is it? It's the users that make the forum valuable. It's the user's community and content, but Reddit Inc's platform.
    - klyrs 4y ago
      > Whose platform is it? It's the users that make the forum valuable. Not if they're using the platform to make other users miserable. That's got negative value.
    - jfengel 4y ago
      The platform belongs to the people who pay the web hosting cost. The people who are there for free are not the customer. They are the product.
  - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
    Insults are perfectly acceptable here so long as they're directed at people espousing locally unpopular opinions and dressed up with enough filler wordage to have a modicum of plausible deniability.

Insult a synonym for verbal attack

by ls15 4y ago

Insult a synonym for verbal attack

So it is unacceptable now to merely insult other users? You can act coy about the meaning of this, but the usage of such language is obvious. It is trying to compare a voluntary public exchange between anonymous internet users to acts of physical violence. The usage of that word there is essentially an underhanded attempt at justifying future censorship through its ambiguous meaning. When moderators agree with the "attacked" the message becomes a bannable offense, but when moderators agree with the "attacker" the message becomes "fair criticism".

jfengel 4y ago
Yes. It is unacceptable now to merely insult other users, on their platform. As well as this one.
- cowtools 4y ago
  Whose platform is it? It's the users that make the forum valuable. Anyone can administrate a web forum. The individuals and communities should decide what speech is acceptable for them, not some unaccountable bureaucrats. I think there is a time and place for insults and flamewars. Maybe not everywhere all the time, but what you are seeing on the web today is selective enforcement of "politeness" and "civility" rules to benefit whatever side of the "flamewar" that the moderators approve of. HN is a good forum insofar as the users think that admins enforce reasonable rules and users agree to abide by those rules and not evade bans. On HN, moderation is rather sophisticated and neutral. When that changes I'll leave.
  - ls15 4y ago
    > Whose platform is it? It's the users that make the forum valuable. It's the user's community and content, but Reddit Inc's platform.
  - klyrs 4y ago
    > Whose platform is it? It's the users that make the forum valuable. Not if they're using the platform to make other users miserable. That's got negative value.
  - jfengel 4y ago
    The platform belongs to the people who pay the web hosting cost. The people who are there for free are not the customer. They are the product.
- throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  Insults are perfectly acceptable here so long as they're directed at people espousing locally unpopular opinions and dressed up with enough filler wordage to have a modicum of plausible deniability.