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It will be AdTech giants instead, Google, Facebook, Adobe that will go that way. To avoid Apple store privacy rules for apps.

by nuker 4y ago

Apocryphon 4y ago
Again, I don't believe they are capable from a business/product perspective of luring customers into their stores. And if they try to force customers, they will have to deal with both angry users and regulators. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32172314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32172314 This whole scenario assumes that AdTech has unlimited power, that Apple has none, and that the courts are blind to their malfeasance. Finally, Adobe isn't even an ad company. They literally sell software!
- EUROCARE 4y ago
  Eh, so regulators explicitly force a platform to open up, and then they will go after people making use of that just in spirit of the law? That seems super weird to me, much weirder than the opposite - that MS/FB/Google stores are being planned right now during the celebration party thrown because of this regulation.
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    I don't think regulators will allow Facebook to take crucial apps like WhatsApp away from the main App Store. That seems like an act of monopolistic power and overreach as well. We're not talking about a simple Contacts app here, of which there are innumerable alternatives on the main store. And even if they did allow it, they would immediately probe Meta's third party app store, because are already concerned with privacy violations and data collection. > MS/FB/Google stores are being planned right now during the celebration party thrown because of this regulation. I hope they are getting their PR team ready too with mea culpas once a vengeful public backlashes against third party exclusivity.
    - EUROCARE 4y ago
      I don't see how regulators could forbid them without making a joke out of themselves. The whole point was to let apps choose - there are dozens of legit points Big Tech can claim as the reason. From fees to UX demands to review process too expensive to supporting banned (but otherwise legit) functionalities.
      - Apocryphon 4y ago
        The whole point was to rein in Big Tech, and to protect consumers. Facebook or other companies forcing exclusivity into shady third party stores to suck up user data does not follow the spirit of these antitrust actions. I don't think regulators will just accept them doing that at face value. At the very least, the public outcry of "where's my Instagram?! Why do I have to sign up for this new thing?" will force some sort of inquiry. Ultimately I have faith that both the public and public institutions will do the right thing, and that we shouldn't put all of our trust into one private corporation to check the power of other private corporations.

It will be AdTech giants instead, Google, Facebook, Adobe that will go that way. To avoid Apple store privacy rules for apps.

by nuker 4y ago

It will be AdTech giants instead, Google, Facebook, Adobe that will go that way. To avoid Apple store privacy rules for apps.

Apocryphon 4y ago

Again, I don't believe they are capable from a business/product perspective of luring customers into their stores. And if they try to force customers, they will have to deal with both angry users and regulators. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32172314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32172314 This whole scenario assumes that AdTech has unlimited power, that Apple has none, and that the courts are blind to their malfeasance. Finally, Adobe isn't even an ad company. They literally sell software!

EUROCARE 4y ago
Eh, so regulators explicitly force a platform to open up, and then they will go after people making use of that just in spirit of the law? That seems super weird to me, much weirder than the opposite - that MS/FB/Google stores are being planned right now during the celebration party thrown because of this regulation.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  I don't think regulators will allow Facebook to take crucial apps like WhatsApp away from the main App Store. That seems like an act of monopolistic power and overreach as well. We're not talking about a simple Contacts app here, of which there are innumerable alternatives on the main store. And even if they did allow it, they would immediately probe Meta's third party app store, because are already concerned with privacy violations and data collection. > MS/FB/Google stores are being planned right now during the celebration party thrown because of this regulation. I hope they are getting their PR team ready too with mea culpas once a vengeful public backlashes against third party exclusivity.
  - EUROCARE 4y ago
    I don't see how regulators could forbid them without making a joke out of themselves. The whole point was to let apps choose - there are dozens of legit points Big Tech can claim as the reason. From fees to UX demands to review process too expensive to supporting banned (but otherwise legit) functionalities.
    - Apocryphon 4y ago
      The whole point was to rein in Big Tech, and to protect consumers. Facebook or other companies forcing exclusivity into shady third party stores to suck up user data does not follow the spirit of these antitrust actions. I don't think regulators will just accept them doing that at face value. At the very least, the public outcry of "where's my Instagram?! Why do I have to sign up for this new thing?" will force some sort of inquiry. Ultimately I have faith that both the public and public institutions will do the right thing, and that we shouldn't put all of our trust into one private corporation to check the power of other private corporations.