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There’s also KneesOverToesGuy who focuses on deep lunges with knees over toes to get full range of motion in the knees and supporting tissues. https://m.youtub

There’s also KneesOverToesGuy who focuses on deep lunges with knees over toes to get full range of motion in the knees and supporting tissues. https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCGybO-bWZ3W6URh42sdMQiw https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCGybO-bWZ3W6URh42sdMQiw

emptyfile 4y ago
I've always found something a bit off about this guy, so since finding out I feel I have to mention in regularly when he comes up: he's a Scientologist.
- cyri 4y ago
  thanks for the heads up! Hopefully Marcus Filly isn't a Scientologist because they both sometimes do workouts together. I really like Fillys programming but ... if so, no money goes towards Scientology.
- Sheeny96 4y ago
  Seen this come up a few times - this may be true, but you have to separate the art from the artist in this case (in my opinion). What he teaches has solid foundations, with multiple testimonies from legitimate athletes. Whether he believes weak knees come from ancient alien souls is not my concern, but his methodologies to fix such ailments are absolutely credible.
  - emptyfile 4y ago
    As I said in the comment below, my point is more that I don't want to give ad revenue to people like him. >What he teaches has solid foundations, with multiple testimonies from legitimate athletes. There are many channels with similar advice, I'd rather give clicks to them. Fitness FAQ comes to mind first.
- qabqabaca 4y ago
  I've always found the way he talks about "world-class" and "bulletproof" knees to be pretty off-putting. These are nonsense terms with nothing but anecdata to back the claims
  - emptyfile 4y ago
    Whenever someone is promoting "The Truth" which is so much better then the stuff other people offer, I'm immediately suspicious and repulsed. In my experience the best experts are humble.
  - gregwebs 4y ago
    He actually has objective definitions for world class: can perform a certain range of movement with a certain strength. Bulletproof is just another term for robustness or avoiding injury and here he sometimes refers to studies on injury.
    - qabqabaca 4y ago
      What is the point of an objective definition if its subjectively determined by one person? Who is he to decide what is world-class and what isn't? And for "bulletproof", I know what it means. It's, again, just another subjective term he throws around carelessly. Something bulletproof is something near indestructuble. Does he guarantee no injuries for life if you complete the course?
- onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
  Tom Cruise is a scientologist, and he's a good actor. Maybe KneesOverToesGuy is a scientologist and knows a lot about knees! It's not like being a scientologist makes you completely incompetent.
  - emptyfile 4y ago
    >Maybe KneesOverToesGuy is a scientologist and knows a lot about knees! He seems to have good advice, my point is more that I don't want to give ad revenue to people like him. >It's not like being a scientologist makes you completely incompetent. No, but the thing I've always disliked about him is the "cult-ish" (ha) tone of his videos, like he's showing us the secret sauce only he knows and not a series of exercises that people have been doing for decades but fell out of fashion. I'm not impressed by his boasting at all and I've seen similar advice to his on many channels.
- kojeovo 4y ago
  Why does that matter exactly?
matsemann 4y ago
His advice is good for one (albeit common) type of knee injury. It's a bit annoying he think he's solved all people's knee issues. Or, I guess it's just so everyone will buy his program. It also irks me how he sometimes play into a "big pharma" kinda conspiracy. That "everyone" says you shouldn't have knees in front of toes, but he is the single person looking through this ruse and selling you the secret. FWIW I've had patellar tendonitis before, and the rehab I got was doing eccentric squats on an inclined surface, explicitly to get my knees over the toes and help put a balanced load on the tendon. So his "secret" has been the common approach for at least a decade.
- gregwebs 4y ago
  But my experience is concordant with the submitted article: always being told to keep the knees over the toes. I don’t know what this has to do with big Pharma and it’s not a conspiracy, but it seems to have achieved common knowledge status and needs to be changed.
- gmadsen 4y ago
  not sure what videos you watched, but he has plenty of videos citing his sources of work done in the 70s and 80s. He also recommends far more and varied movements than the split squat.

emptyfile 4y ago

I've always found something a bit off about this guy, so since finding out I feel I have to mention in regularly when he comes up: he's a Scientologist.

cyri 4y ago
thanks for the heads up! Hopefully Marcus Filly isn't a Scientologist because they both sometimes do workouts together. I really like Fillys programming but ... if so, no money goes towards Scientology.
Sheeny96 4y ago
Seen this come up a few times - this may be true, but you have to separate the art from the artist in this case (in my opinion). What he teaches has solid foundations, with multiple testimonies from legitimate athletes. Whether he believes weak knees come from ancient alien souls is not my concern, but his methodologies to fix such ailments are absolutely credible.
- emptyfile 4y ago
  As I said in the comment below, my point is more that I don't want to give ad revenue to people like him. >What he teaches has solid foundations, with multiple testimonies from legitimate athletes. There are many channels with similar advice, I'd rather give clicks to them. Fitness FAQ comes to mind first.
qabqabaca 4y ago
I've always found the way he talks about "world-class" and "bulletproof" knees to be pretty off-putting. These are nonsense terms with nothing but anecdata to back the claims
- emptyfile 4y ago
  Whenever someone is promoting "The Truth" which is so much better then the stuff other people offer, I'm immediately suspicious and repulsed. In my experience the best experts are humble.
- gregwebs 4y ago
  He actually has objective definitions for world class: can perform a certain range of movement with a certain strength. Bulletproof is just another term for robustness or avoiding injury and here he sometimes refers to studies on injury.
  - qabqabaca 4y ago
    What is the point of an objective definition if its subjectively determined by one person? Who is he to decide what is world-class and what isn't? And for "bulletproof", I know what it means. It's, again, just another subjective term he throws around carelessly. Something bulletproof is something near indestructuble. Does he guarantee no injuries for life if you complete the course?
onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
Tom Cruise is a scientologist, and he's a good actor. Maybe KneesOverToesGuy is a scientologist and knows a lot about knees! It's not like being a scientologist makes you completely incompetent.
- emptyfile 4y ago
  >Maybe KneesOverToesGuy is a scientologist and knows a lot about knees! He seems to have good advice, my point is more that I don't want to give ad revenue to people like him. >It's not like being a scientologist makes you completely incompetent. No, but the thing I've always disliked about him is the "cult-ish" (ha) tone of his videos, like he's showing us the secret sauce only he knows and not a series of exercises that people have been doing for decades but fell out of fashion. I'm not impressed by his boasting at all and I've seen similar advice to his on many channels.
kojeovo 4y ago
Why does that matter exactly?

matsemann 4y ago

His advice is good for one (albeit common) type of knee injury. It's a bit annoying he think he's solved all people's knee issues. Or, I guess it's just so everyone will buy his program. It also irks me how he sometimes play into a "big pharma" kinda conspiracy. That "everyone" says you shouldn't have knees in front of toes, but he is the single person looking through this ruse and selling you the secret. FWIW I've had patellar tendonitis before, and the rehab I got was doing eccentric squats on an inclined surface, explicitly to get my knees over the toes and help put a balanced load on the tendon. So his "secret" has been the common approach for at least a decade.

gregwebs 4y ago
But my experience is concordant with the submitted article: always being told to keep the knees over the toes. I don’t know what this has to do with big Pharma and it’s not a conspiracy, but it seems to have achieved common knowledge status and needs to be changed.
gmadsen 4y ago
not sure what videos you watched, but he has plenty of videos citing his sources of work done in the 70s and 80s. He also recommends far more and varied movements than the split squat.