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I guess it depends on what you count as "over politics" - I think a lot of people would be willing to engage in violent resistance to something like "the presid

by Imnimo 4y ago

I guess it depends on what you count as "over politics" - I think a lot of people would be willing to engage in violent resistance to something like "the president declares the constitution suspended and all elections indefinitely postponed", but not to something like "the Supreme Court overturns Obergefell vs Hodges". I find the referenced numbers perfectly plausible if they interpret the question to mean something like the former.

sorry_outta_gas 4y ago
After the summer of 2020 I wouldn't be shocked things sprial out of control fast
- sorry_outta_gas 4y ago
  I'm not sure on the downvotes, I'm speaking about the potential for social unrest and how easily it can be realized not the reasons behind them which everyone is free to agree or disagree with
- AnimalMuppet 4y ago
  I'm pretty sure that if a mob pressures the Senate into accepting a slate of "alternate electors", and that swings the Electoral College vote, there will be a very short period of time in which this could be shut down short of a civil war. For some lesser cause? Another murder of an unarmed black person, even by police, seems unlikely to cause it. Economic inequality? Doesn't look like it. Illegal aliens? Again, probably not. Climate change? Also no.
  - chasd00 4y ago
    > mob pressures the Senate into accepting a slate of "alternate electors" That would have to be one hell of a mob. How would they exert pressure? Unless their "pressure" is lawful then they'd just be arrested like the Jan 6 people.
    - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
      The mob of January 6 was close to enough. If an equivalent mob brought weapons (or was willing to use the weapons they had), and if the authorties' response was equally ineffective and delayed, that sized mob might be enough. Ten times that size would almost certainly be enough. How many Senators are willing to die for the Electoral College vote? How many are willing to do so after they just saw several other Senators shot dead in front of them?
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watwut 4y ago
Unfortunately' another reason for violent resistance is "I believe Clinton killed babies behind Abby with help of lizard people". Or "I believe Trump should be president regardless of election results and don't think democrats can legally win elections ever".

by Imnimo 4y ago

sorry_outta_gas 4y ago

After the summer of 2020 I wouldn't be shocked things sprial out of control fast

sorry_outta_gas 4y ago
I'm not sure on the downvotes, I'm speaking about the potential for social unrest and how easily it can be realized not the reasons behind them which everyone is free to agree or disagree with
AnimalMuppet 4y ago
I'm pretty sure that if a mob pressures the Senate into accepting a slate of "alternate electors", and that swings the Electoral College vote, there will be a very short period of time in which this could be shut down short of a civil war. For some lesser cause? Another murder of an unarmed black person, even by police, seems unlikely to cause it. Economic inequality? Doesn't look like it. Illegal aliens? Again, probably not. Climate change? Also no.
- chasd00 4y ago
  > mob pressures the Senate into accepting a slate of "alternate electors" That would have to be one hell of a mob. How would they exert pressure? Unless their "pressure" is lawful then they'd just be arrested like the Jan 6 people.
  - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
    The mob of January 6 was close to enough. If an equivalent mob brought weapons (or was willing to use the weapons they had), and if the authorties' response was equally ineffective and delayed, that sized mob might be enough. Ten times that size would almost certainly be enough. How many Senators are willing to die for the Electoral College vote? How many are willing to do so after they just saw several other Senators shot dead in front of them?

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watwut 4y ago

Unfortunately' another reason for violent resistance is "I believe Clinton killed babies behind Abby with help of lizard people". Or "I believe Trump should be president regardless of election results and don't think democrats can legally win elections ever".