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I'm already bored of it. When you have everything, you have nothing.

danielvaughn 4y ago
I'm sure the novelty wears off. But I'm already coming up with several applications for it. On the personal side, I've been getting into game development, but the biggest roadblock is creating concept art. I'm an artist but it takes a huge amount of time to get the ideas on paper. Using DALLE will be a massive benefit and will let me expedite that process. It's important to note that this is not replacing my entire creative process. But it solves the issue I have, where I'm lying in bed imagining a scene in my mind, but don't have the time or energy to sketch it out myself.
- nsxwolf 4y ago
  I did notice it is very good at making small pixel art icons/sprites.
  - KaoruAoiShiho 4y ago
    Do you have any tips or some prompt examples?
- thatguy0900 4y ago
  I've been having a blast using it in my dungeons and dragons games. If you type in, say, "dnd village battlemap" it's really pretty usable. Not to mention the wild magic weapons and monsters it can come up with.
- ausbah 4y ago
  >I'm an artist but it takes a huge amount of time to get the ideas on paper. this is what I really like about DALLE-mini, it's ability to create pretty good basic outlines for a scene. it's low resolution enough that there's room for your own creativity while giving you a good template to spring off from. things like poses, composition of multiple people, etc.
  - zanderwohl 4y ago
    I've used AI to try out different composition/layout possibilities. Sometimes it comes up with an arrangement of objects I hadn't considered. Sometimes it uses colors in really interesting ways. Great jumping-off point for drafting.
  - danadannecy 4y ago
    I'm in exactly the same boat. I got tired of waiting around for openai to take me off their waitlist and used DALLE-mini (now craiyon) to generate large batches of concept art for a project I was working on. I picked the ones that, despite being low-res blobs, conveyed the right mood or had an interesting composition of elements. I then layered my favorite elements of those and painted over, adding details wherever I wanted, and came out with something much better than I would've been able to make alone.
- jnovek 4y ago
  I’ve been using generative models as an art form in and of themselves since the mid/late 2010s. I like generating mundane things that bump right up along the edge of the uncanny valley and finding categories of images that challenge the model (e.g. for CLIP, phrases that have a clear meaning but are infrequently annotated). Generating itself can be art. I’m not going to win a Pulitzer here, it’s for the personal joy of it, but I will certainly never get tired of it.
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peteforde 4y ago
I don't know how to say this without sounding like a jerk, even if I bend over backwards to preface that this isn't my intent: this statement says more about your creativity and curiosity than a ceiling on how entertaining DALL-E can be to someone who could keep multiple instances busy, like grandma playing nine bingo cards at once. Knowing that it will only get better - animation cannot be far behind - makes me feel genuinely excited to be alive.
- nwienert 4y ago
  Dall-e has novelty, but no intent, meaning, originality. Yes the author can be creative at generating prompts, but visually I haven’t seen it generate anything that feels artistically interesting. If you want pre-existing concepts in novel combinations then yes it works. It’s good at “in the style of” but there’s no “in a new style”. It has a house style too that tends to feel Reddit-like.
  - hansword 4y ago
    I would say it helps to first think what you want to get out of it. If your task is "show me something that breaks through our hyperspeed media", then I guess some obscure museum is a better place than an ML model. If your task is "find the best variation on theme X" or "quick draft visualization", they are often very useful. I am sure there will be many further tasks to which current and future models will be well suited. They are not magic picture machines. At least not yet.
  - gsk22 4y ago
    Isn't every "new style" just a novel combination of pre-existing concepts? Nothing new under the sun and all that. Either way, I feel like your view is an exhaustingly pessimistic take on AI-generated art. I mean, sure, most of what DALL-E generates is pretty mundane, but other times I have been surprised at how bizarre and unique certain images are. You seem to imply that because an AI is not human, its art is not imbued with meaning or originality -- but I find that an AI's non-human nature is precisely what _makes_ the art so original and meaningful.
muzani 4y ago
I was actually forcing myself to go through the whole 50/day because I knew it wouldn't be free forever, and I wanted to get better at it. I'm glad I did, but I wish I did more.
ryanmercer 4y ago
Same. I generated several thousand images and found it a chore, outside of the daily theme on the discord server, to try and even think of anything to query. It was also discouraging when sometimes you'd hit pure gold for 4-5 of the 6 images, then you'd be lucky to get 1 out of the 6 that was worth saving for several more queries. Now it's down to 4 images and... yeah... I'm not going to try and profit from the images, I don't need them for any business uses or anything, so to me it was a fun for a while and now just something I'll largely put out of mind.

I'm sure the novelty wears off. But I'm already coming up with several applications for it. On the personal side, I've been getting into game development, but the biggest roadblock is creating concept art. I'm an artist but it takes a huge amount of time to get the ideas on paper. Using DALLE will be a massive benefit and will let me expedite that process. It's important to note that this is not replacing my entire creative process. But it solves the issue I have, where I'm lying in bed imagining a scene in my mind, but don't have the time or energy to sketch it out myself.

nsxwolf 4y ago
I did notice it is very good at making small pixel art icons/sprites.
- KaoruAoiShiho 4y ago
  Do you have any tips or some prompt examples?
thatguy0900 4y ago
I've been having a blast using it in my dungeons and dragons games. If you type in, say, "dnd village battlemap" it's really pretty usable. Not to mention the wild magic weapons and monsters it can come up with.
ausbah 4y ago
>I'm an artist but it takes a huge amount of time to get the ideas on paper. this is what I really like about DALLE-mini, it's ability to create pretty good basic outlines for a scene. it's low resolution enough that there's room for your own creativity while giving you a good template to spring off from. things like poses, composition of multiple people, etc.
- zanderwohl 4y ago
  I've used AI to try out different composition/layout possibilities. Sometimes it comes up with an arrangement of objects I hadn't considered. Sometimes it uses colors in really interesting ways. Great jumping-off point for drafting.
- danadannecy 4y ago
  I'm in exactly the same boat. I got tired of waiting around for openai to take me off their waitlist and used DALLE-mini (now craiyon) to generate large batches of concept art for a project I was working on. I picked the ones that, despite being low-res blobs, conveyed the right mood or had an interesting composition of elements. I then layered my favorite elements of those and painted over, adding details wherever I wanted, and came out with something much better than I would've been able to make alone.
jnovek 4y ago
I’ve been using generative models as an art form in and of themselves since the mid/late 2010s. I like generating mundane things that bump right up along the edge of the uncanny valley and finding categories of images that challenge the model (e.g. for CLIP, phrases that have a clear meaning but are infrequently annotated). Generating itself can be art. I’m not going to win a Pulitzer here, it’s for the personal joy of it, but I will certainly never get tired of it.

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peteforde 4y ago

I don't know how to say this without sounding like a jerk, even if I bend over backwards to preface that this isn't my intent: this statement says more about your creativity and curiosity than a ceiling on how entertaining DALL-E can be to someone who could keep multiple instances busy, like grandma playing nine bingo cards at once. Knowing that it will only get better - animation cannot be far behind - makes me feel genuinely excited to be alive.

nwienert 4y ago
Dall-e has novelty, but no intent, meaning, originality. Yes the author can be creative at generating prompts, but visually I haven’t seen it generate anything that feels artistically interesting. If you want pre-existing concepts in novel combinations then yes it works. It’s good at “in the style of” but there’s no “in a new style”. It has a house style too that tends to feel Reddit-like.
- hansword 4y ago
  I would say it helps to first think what you want to get out of it. If your task is "show me something that breaks through our hyperspeed media", then I guess some obscure museum is a better place than an ML model. If your task is "find the best variation on theme X" or "quick draft visualization", they are often very useful. I am sure there will be many further tasks to which current and future models will be well suited. They are not magic picture machines. At least not yet.
- gsk22 4y ago
  Isn't every "new style" just a novel combination of pre-existing concepts? Nothing new under the sun and all that. Either way, I feel like your view is an exhaustingly pessimistic take on AI-generated art. I mean, sure, most of what DALL-E generates is pretty mundane, but other times I have been surprised at how bizarre and unique certain images are. You seem to imply that because an AI is not human, its art is not imbued with meaning or originality -- but I find that an AI's non-human nature is precisely what _makes_ the art so original and meaningful.

muzani 4y ago

I was actually forcing myself to go through the whole 50/day because I knew it wouldn't be free forever, and I wanted to get better at it. I'm glad I did, but I wish I did more.

ryanmercer 4y ago

Same. I generated several thousand images and found it a chore, outside of the daily theme on the discord server, to try and even think of anything to query. It was also discouraging when sometimes you'd hit pure gold for 4-5 of the 6 images, then you'd be lucky to get 1 out of the 6 that was worth saving for several more queries. Now it's down to 4 images and... yeah... I'm not going to try and profit from the images, I don't need them for any business uses or anything, so to me it was a fun for a while and now just something I'll largely put out of mind.