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It's an extremely popular opinion. It's the tech grandma phenomenon. A lot of people in tech want to optimise for their grandmas. So whenever something like thi

It's an extremely popular opinion. It's the tech grandma phenomenon. A lot of people in tech want to optimise for their grandmas. So whenever something like this is proposed, the standard response is, 'But what about my grandma ?'. It's a variation of the 'But what about the kids ?' argument.

quest88 4y ago
Consider me a grandma. I work in tech but I'm also tired of it.
martimarkov 4y ago
But what about me? I’m the one who likes the fact I don’t need to worry about malware on my phone and I open sensitive documents only on my phone without any anxiety that they might get leaked. I feel a lot of ppl in tech actually don’t care about the end user and care only about the profit they can make while completely disrespecting my privacy. How about that being the phenomenon?
- bubblethink 4y ago
  You will always have the option of sticking to Apple's recommended practices (their app store, their payment system, etc.). So what's the issue ?
  - d12bb 4y ago
    I won't have when my bank decides their crappy app is better than Apple Pay, when an app I rely on decides to leave the app store, etc. Sure, I can find another bank/app, but I use the ones I use because they have the best conditions/features/etc for me, which others may not have. Or I can't even switch, because the app in question is required for work/public transit etc.
    - krzyk 4y ago
      This does not happen on Android, so why should it happen here? Most people use Google Pay there, bank apps with payments is something that is used rarely, but there is such possibility.
      - d12bb 4y ago
        Here in Germany, “Sparkassen” and “Volksbanken”, which together have >50% market share, both don't support Google Pay, instead providing their own (according to acquaintances using them, not that good) payment apps. They both support Apple Pay, though.
      - martin8412 4y ago
        But it does .. It does happen on Android. Plenty of banks refuse to support Google Pay, and will instead leave you with their own crappy app. They all support Apple Pay though.

quest88 4y ago

Consider me a grandma. I work in tech but I'm also tired of it.

martimarkov 4y ago

But what about me? I’m the one who likes the fact I don’t need to worry about malware on my phone and I open sensitive documents only on my phone without any anxiety that they might get leaked. I feel a lot of ppl in tech actually don’t care about the end user and care only about the profit they can make while completely disrespecting my privacy. How about that being the phenomenon?

bubblethink 4y ago
You will always have the option of sticking to Apple's recommended practices (their app store, their payment system, etc.). So what's the issue ?
- d12bb 4y ago
  I won't have when my bank decides their crappy app is better than Apple Pay, when an app I rely on decides to leave the app store, etc. Sure, I can find another bank/app, but I use the ones I use because they have the best conditions/features/etc for me, which others may not have. Or I can't even switch, because the app in question is required for work/public transit etc.
  - krzyk 4y ago
    This does not happen on Android, so why should it happen here? Most people use Google Pay there, bank apps with payments is something that is used rarely, but there is such possibility.
    - d12bb 4y ago
      Here in Germany, “Sparkassen” and “Volksbanken”, which together have >50% market share, both don't support Google Pay, instead providing their own (according to acquaintances using them, not that good) payment apps. They both support Apple Pay, though.
    - martin8412 4y ago
      But it does .. It does happen on Android. Plenty of banks refuse to support Google Pay, and will instead leave you with their own crappy app. They all support Apple Pay though.