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There's this certain mentality that's been deeply culturally embedded by anti-union propoganda, especially in tech, that unions are a sort of blue collar organi
by Frost1x 4y ago
There's this certain mentality that's been deeply culturally embedded by anti-union propoganda, especially in tech, that unions are a sort of blue collar organization designed strictly for appeazing underperforming and lazy.
What people forget in their arrogance is that unions also just bring more leverage back to the table to fight off abuse, setup better conditions, etc. Yes, they can be abused and yes, they can lead to stagnation but without collective bargaining power your only leverage is how easy/difficult you are to replace and how abundant acceptable (e.g., do I need to uproot my life?) competitive or acceptable openings are at any given point of time so you can vote with your feet.
It's perfectly OK to embed your idealistic meritocracy within a union as part of your negotiations. You don't have to appease the lazy and 'medicore' if that's your great fear, you can negotiate and codify fair evaluations for these things if your union so wishes this. At the same time you also can negotiate nifty things like: not being on call, not working overtime, making sure theres adequate number of engineers on a project, improving the type of work you do, etc. Unless you're leading a startup where you're on the other side of the table, I don't see how these ideas aren't appealing to you--the opposite is very appealing to your employers.
In general, labor has been on the losing side for decades and there's this degree of condescension that "I am professional making great TC, I don't need those piddly unions" mentality that does nothing but props up continued erosion of standards and expectations of work and compensation in this industry. I've been working in software and tech for quite awhile (my mentor who shared their experiences of such declines since the 60s), and I can assure you it's gotten worse over the years for workers. This industry has been mostly fortunate because of growth outstripping supply that continues to give some leverage, but that may not be the case indefinitely and if that happens, unless you are near the absolute top of the field, you too will continue to see declines in working conditions in this field indefinitely.
- meowzero 4y agoI had conservative in-laws, who lived through the 80's unions, indoctrinate me into the anti-union view by portraying all unionized workers as lazy. They believed Unions are the sole reason why companies like Eastern Airlines dissolved. Perhaps unions did grow more corrupt in the past. As I looked into it further, it was similar to the argument how conservatives don't support certain social services because it'll cause people to be lazy and underperform in society. There is probably some truth to that, and there's always going to be people taking advantage of the system. I do agree with you that the balance has shifted too much on the anti-union side. I hope these new unionizing efforts help shift the balance back to the middle.
- bowsamic 4y agoThe question that always stops me is, should lazy people be left to die for their laziness if we have the means to keep them alive?