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I reckon this particular objection actually shows the forma mentis of developers. It seems like a lot of them feel like they are temporarily-embarrassed megacor

by toyg 4y ago

I reckon this particular objection actually shows the forma mentis of developers. It seems like a lot of them feel like they are temporarily-embarrassed megacorps, worrying about things that will never really apply to them.

MichaelCollins 4y ago
Exactly. Worrying about your company "suddenly" crossing the €75 billion market cap threshold... that's the sort of problem most people would give an arm and a leg to have.
charcircuit 4y ago
It's possible to have an opinion on laws that you don't effect oneself. If a country had a law that if a company reaches $1 billion lifetime revenue that it gets repossessed by the state I can apply my belief that stealing is bad and be against that law despite it likely never affecting me.
- fabianhjr 4y ago
  Requiring monopolistic platform megacorps to compete is similar to expropriating them. Got it.
  - charcircuit 4y ago
    I was using an extreme example to illustrate my point more clearly.
- toyg 4y ago
  > It's possible to have an opinion on laws that you don't effect oneself. Sure, and it's possible to heavily discount your opinion when compared to the hundreds of opinions of experts in antitrust law that helped shaping this legislation. This would be less the case, maybe, if this legislation actually targeted you, so your insight would be relevant; but the fact is that it doesn't.
  - charcircuit 4y ago
    Democratic societies don't decide laws based off what "experts" think is right, but instead based off what the entire populace thinks. If I was European my opinion should matter just as much as one these "experts."
    - wasmitnetzen 4y ago
      Europe is, for the most part, a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. We specifically elect experts to write laws, and not have the general populace decide it.
ROTMetro 4y ago
I think it's more having the mindset to think externally to yourself and put yourself into users 'usecases', not personal self interest.
- hnbad 4y ago
  Yeah, no. Neither systems thinking nor empathy lead to the position that megacorps should be treated exactly the same way as smaller companies. If anything, the exact opposite is the case.
mortenjorck 4y ago
> temporarily-embarrassed megacorps This is a very perceptive extension of the famous Steinbeck quote. The sentiment is certainly not limited to the blue-collar labor class of which the original referred.

by toyg 4y ago

MichaelCollins 4y ago

Exactly. Worrying about your company "suddenly" crossing the €75 billion market cap threshold... that's the sort of problem most people would give an arm and a leg to have.

charcircuit 4y ago

It's possible to have an opinion on laws that you don't effect oneself. If a country had a law that if a company reaches $1 billion lifetime revenue that it gets repossessed by the state I can apply my belief that stealing is bad and be against that law despite it likely never affecting me.

fabianhjr 4y ago
Requiring monopolistic platform megacorps to compete is similar to expropriating them. Got it.
- charcircuit 4y ago
  I was using an extreme example to illustrate my point more clearly.
toyg 4y ago
> It's possible to have an opinion on laws that you don't effect oneself. Sure, and it's possible to heavily discount your opinion when compared to the hundreds of opinions of experts in antitrust law that helped shaping this legislation. This would be less the case, maybe, if this legislation actually targeted you, so your insight would be relevant; but the fact is that it doesn't.
- charcircuit 4y ago
  Democratic societies don't decide laws based off what "experts" think is right, but instead based off what the entire populace thinks. If I was European my opinion should matter just as much as one these "experts."
  - wasmitnetzen 4y ago
    Europe is, for the most part, a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. We specifically elect experts to write laws, and not have the general populace decide it.

ROTMetro 4y ago

I think it's more having the mindset to think externally to yourself and put yourself into users 'usecases', not personal self interest.

hnbad 4y ago
Yeah, no. Neither systems thinking nor empathy lead to the position that megacorps should be treated exactly the same way as smaller companies. If anything, the exact opposite is the case.

mortenjorck 4y ago

> temporarily-embarrassed megacorps This is a very perceptive extension of the famous Steinbeck quote. The sentiment is certainly not limited to the blue-collar labor class of which the original referred.