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> a 2mile commute can last easily 45 minutes. at 10mph average, which includes stops, I doubt a 2 mile commute could take 45 minutes. It should take... 12 min

> a 2mile commute can last easily 45 minutes. at 10mph average, which includes stops, I doubt a 2 mile commute could take 45 minutes. It should take... 12 minutes. Let's call it 15. > I have walked thousands of miles because the bus stops do not align with my destinations. It's probably good for your health. Seriously, now: I get your point. The > under 100 degrees of sun and under snowstorms is the worst part, I guess. I commuted by bus only occasionally in my life, and I've luckily been telecommuting for the past ~15 years or so. But I can relate.

sjf 4y ago
You don't take the bus, it probably is 45mins. You are not including time walking to/from the bus stop at both ends. Time spent waiting for the bus- this is probably the biggest one. Time for people getting on and off at bus stops and paying- in some places, for example in London, there are stops every couple of hundred meters on the route, it is kind of ridiculous.
- andylynch 4y ago
  Having them close together is a massive help to people with mobility issue, bags, and /or small children. TFL policy is to reduce journey times by keeping stops less than five minutes’ from homes, and closer in town centres. The buses also won’t normally stop unless there is someone boarding or alighting.
simonsarris 4y ago
> I doubt a 2 mile commute could take 45 minutes. It should take... 12 minutes. Let's call it 15. We can look this up. For instance, going from somewhere random in Tribeca to a random bar 2 miles away is a 42 minute walk or a 37-42 minute bus ride (with 1 change, with busses running every 15 minutes). This is a good example of a failure mode if the bus doesn't go exactly where you want it to. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/''/40.7237156,-73.9777888/@40.7351296,-74.0090531,14z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m3!2m2!1d-74.0051267!2d40.7186418!1m0!2m1!5e0!3e3 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/''/40.7237156,-73.9777888/@4... What if you do a perfect straight line single bus for 2 miles from Tribeca it's still 24 minutes, with busses every 15 minutes, so between 24-39 minutes. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/''/40.7437799,-73.9917792/@40.7312264,-74.0066405,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m9!4m8!1m3!2m2!1d-74.0051267!2d40.7186418!1m0!2m1!5e0!3e3 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/''/40.7437799,-73.9917792/@4... The subway option is much faster (original comment is comparing busses to subways)

sjf 4y ago

You don't take the bus, it probably is 45mins. You are not including time walking to/from the bus stop at both ends. Time spent waiting for the bus- this is probably the biggest one. Time for people getting on and off at bus stops and paying- in some places, for example in London, there are stops every couple of hundred meters on the route, it is kind of ridiculous.

andylynch 4y ago
Having them close together is a massive help to people with mobility issue, bags, and /or small children. TFL policy is to reduce journey times by keeping stops less than five minutes’ from homes, and closer in town centres. The buses also won’t normally stop unless there is someone boarding or alighting.

simonsarris 4y ago

> I doubt a 2 mile commute could take 45 minutes. It should take... 12 minutes. Let's call it 15. We can look this up. For instance, going from somewhere random in Tribeca to a random bar 2 miles away is a 42 minute walk or a 37-42 minute bus ride (with 1 change, with busses running every 15 minutes). This is a good example of a failure mode if the bus doesn't go exactly where you want it to. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/''/40.7237156,-73.9777888/@40.7351296,-74.0090531,14z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m3!2m2!1d-74.0051267!2d40.7186418!1m0!2m1!5e0!3e3 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/''/40.7237156,-73.9777888/@4... What if you do a perfect straight line single bus for 2 miles from Tribeca it's still 24 minutes, with busses every 15 minutes, so between 24-39 minutes. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/''/40.7437799,-73.9917792/@40.7312264,-74.0066405,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m9!4m8!1m3!2m2!1d-74.0051267!2d40.7186418!1m0!2m1!5e0!3e3 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/''/40.7437799,-73.9917792/@4... The subway option is much faster (original comment is comparing busses to subways)