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Popular security researchers have claimed that the Flipper Zero website is a honeypot site.

evilbob93 4y ago
When I tried to go to the link on this post today, my browser gave me a "NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID" warning. I have used it successfully in the past to place and receive three different orders of flippers and accessories.
mrHedgehog 4y ago
Do you have any proof for that? That's a big claim to make without any proof.
jzig 4y ago
Well they did a really good job then, because the physical product in my hands is well made and functional.
- SkyMarshal 4y ago
  How do you have a physical product when they’re only taking pre-orders?
  - wombat-man 4y ago
    I have one too. I think they are taking preorders and engaging their contract manufacturers when it makes sense. Took at least a month to actually get to me.
  - jzig 4y ago
    They did a kickstarter two years ago just before the microchip shortage. They posted frequent blog updates about their process on how to continue manufacturing while adapting to the shortage and swapping out components when available. Shipping to all countries just started a couple months ago.
  - ixtli 4y ago
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flipper-devices/flipper-zero-tamagochi-for-hackers https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flipper-devices/flipper... perhaps a different reward tier for the kickstarter? it was a massive success. if you check the comment / karma history for people saying they have them they're not fake accounts.
  - judge2020 4y ago
    I was able to get a US shipment of it to me about a month ago (not via KS), the store has had small batches of restocks available every once in a while.
  - _joel 4y ago
    I also have one, arrived this week. Backed it ages ago.
  - evilbob93 4y ago
    I was on the 2 year kickstarter wait. Got my order in mid -May (USA). Later on, they had some sporadic availability, got my second one ordered and it has arrived in the last week or two. So far it's mostly a clunky universal remote but I've started relearning C so that I can write firmware customizations.
- develatio 4y ago
  But the website clearly says that shipping will start in August. How did you get yours?
  - ixtli 4y ago
    They ran a very very successful kickstarter. I think people who have them paid into a different reward tier and got stuff early.
    - turtleman1338 4y ago
      No actually this depends on your location. I was an early baker and I am still waiting for my device in the EU, while they already shipped it to ppl who pre-orderd after the kickstarter was finished. You can also buy it in EU from an official reseller, with same day shipping depending on your location: https://lab401.com/products/flipper-zero https://lab401.com/products/flipper-zero I dont know what happend with the shipping management, I hope I will receive my device soon.
  - sithadmin 4y ago
    I got 2x via the original Kickstarter campaign as an early backer. Have had them in-hand since...March 2022?
  - jzig 4y ago
    Like ixtli said, I am an early kickstarter backer from two years. They got crushed from the microchip shortage and fulfilled all backers before continuing on to preorders.
  - yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
    Mine arrived earlier today. I was one of the backers of their Kickstarter campaign, which I think ran two years ago. They've shipped thousands of these already.
adenozine 4y ago
I haven’t seen any. Care to link some?
deerIRL 4y ago
Do you have any source for this? A cursory search brings up nothing for me.
syntaxing 4y ago
Honeypot for what though?
- Inhibit 4y ago
  Stuffed bears. Mainly. I'd also like a citation.
SkyMarshal 4y ago
Need links or citations besides just a vague claim of “popular security researchers”.
wombat-man 4y ago
I've seen someone claim this on twitter too. Who? And what are they claiming. It does seem like flipper zero enables mischief but a honeypot?
edm0nd 4y ago
What exact 'popular security researchers'? Press X for doubt. It's open source and it was started on Kickstarter before even having a website.
- suction 4y ago
  Unless somebody disassembles it and reverse engineers all embedded code, we can't be sure this is not a Trojan horse from Russia. Wouldn't put it past them. Definitely not something I'd import into my country.
theshrike79 4y ago
> Popular security researchers Can you point out even one?
kstrauser 4y ago
Someone forgot to tell our security software.
stjohnswarts 4y ago
Well don't use your credit card. What else are they gonna get? There is nothing illegal about a wifi dev device and they aren't hiding anything. You can order it anywhere if you're willing to pay
nibbleshifter 4y ago
Citation needed

When I tried to go to the link on this post today, my browser gave me a "NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID" warning. I have used it successfully in the past to place and receive three different orders of flippers and accessories.

mrHedgehog 4y ago

Do you have any proof for that? That's a big claim to make without any proof.

jzig 4y ago

Well they did a really good job then, because the physical product in my hands is well made and functional.

SkyMarshal 4y ago
How do you have a physical product when they’re only taking pre-orders?
- wombat-man 4y ago
  I have one too. I think they are taking preorders and engaging their contract manufacturers when it makes sense. Took at least a month to actually get to me.
- jzig 4y ago
  They did a kickstarter two years ago just before the microchip shortage. They posted frequent blog updates about their process on how to continue manufacturing while adapting to the shortage and swapping out components when available. Shipping to all countries just started a couple months ago.
- ixtli 4y ago
  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flipper-devices/flipper-zero-tamagochi-for-hackers https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flipper-devices/flipper... perhaps a different reward tier for the kickstarter? it was a massive success. if you check the comment / karma history for people saying they have them they're not fake accounts.
- judge2020 4y ago
  I was able to get a US shipment of it to me about a month ago (not via KS), the store has had small batches of restocks available every once in a while.
- _joel 4y ago
  I also have one, arrived this week. Backed it ages ago.
- evilbob93 4y ago
  I was on the 2 year kickstarter wait. Got my order in mid -May (USA). Later on, they had some sporadic availability, got my second one ordered and it has arrived in the last week or two. So far it's mostly a clunky universal remote but I've started relearning C so that I can write firmware customizations.
develatio 4y ago
But the website clearly says that shipping will start in August. How did you get yours?
- ixtli 4y ago
  They ran a very very successful kickstarter. I think people who have them paid into a different reward tier and got stuff early.
  - turtleman1338 4y ago
    No actually this depends on your location. I was an early baker and I am still waiting for my device in the EU, while they already shipped it to ppl who pre-orderd after the kickstarter was finished. You can also buy it in EU from an official reseller, with same day shipping depending on your location: https://lab401.com/products/flipper-zero https://lab401.com/products/flipper-zero I dont know what happend with the shipping management, I hope I will receive my device soon.
- sithadmin 4y ago
  I got 2x via the original Kickstarter campaign as an early backer. Have had them in-hand since...March 2022?
- jzig 4y ago
  Like ixtli said, I am an early kickstarter backer from two years. They got crushed from the microchip shortage and fulfilled all backers before continuing on to preorders.
- yakshaving_jgt 4y ago
  Mine arrived earlier today. I was one of the backers of their Kickstarter campaign, which I think ran two years ago. They've shipped thousands of these already.

adenozine 4y ago

I haven’t seen any. Care to link some?

deerIRL 4y ago

Do you have any source for this? A cursory search brings up nothing for me.

syntaxing 4y ago

Honeypot for what though?

Inhibit 4y ago
Stuffed bears. Mainly. I'd also like a citation.

SkyMarshal 4y ago

Need links or citations besides just a vague claim of “popular security researchers”.

wombat-man 4y ago

I've seen someone claim this on twitter too. Who? And what are they claiming. It does seem like flipper zero enables mischief but a honeypot?

edm0nd 4y ago

What exact 'popular security researchers'? Press X for doubt. It's open source and it was started on Kickstarter before even having a website.

suction 4y ago
Unless somebody disassembles it and reverse engineers all embedded code, we can't be sure this is not a Trojan horse from Russia. Wouldn't put it past them. Definitely not something I'd import into my country.

theshrike79 4y ago

> Popular security researchers Can you point out even one?

kstrauser 4y ago

Someone forgot to tell our security software.

stjohnswarts 4y ago

Well don't use your credit card. What else are they gonna get? There is nothing illegal about a wifi dev device and they aren't hiding anything. You can order it anywhere if you're willing to pay

nibbleshifter 4y ago

Citation needed