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Would something like this be a good way for a beginner to get into hardware hacking, or is it more for intermediate-advanced level hackers?

edm0nd 4y ago
I would say yes! It's great for beginners as it has a huge and friendly community behind it and you can easily work your way up from beginner to more intermediate/advanced.
_kbh_ 4y ago
Depends what your trying to do with it to be honest. If you just wanna use the i2c/spi/uart stuff you can probably handle it. If you can plug some cables in, at worst soldering cables or headers to a board and can find the pins/pads themselves you’ll be fine. At worst if you wanna try it out without spending so much money you can try out the bus pirate from dangerous prototypes it’s only ~27. http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate
shadowpho 4y ago
Flipper zero is more aimed at wireless hacking. Which is very cool, it's a fairly unexplored area of hacking (due to traditionally high barrier of entry), but is a subset of "hardware hacking". For general hardware hacking I'd get a pirate bus ($30), and a saelae logic clone (cheap). Maybe a nice cheap oscilloscope (but they go for $300+), but logic clone can get you mostly there.
- suction 4y ago
  How though when any interesting wireless target uses encryption?
- _joel 4y ago
  There's a load of GPIO on it too
  - evilbob93 4y ago
    so far a relatively unexplored avenue. The Discord doesn't have a GPIO specialty last I looked but I've seen a few people wishing that there was one.
- 5bolts 4y ago
  depends on what you need scope wise. several traditional looking ones on amazon in the 150 range. hantek handheld for 190.
- birdman3131 4y ago
  I just got my Pokit Pro multimeter in this week and it has an oscilloscope feature. Good for up to 600V. Not currently sure I would recommend it but Ive not found anything bad on it. It is almost $200 now though.
notatoad 4y ago
Given all the comments here praising the build quality and conspicuous lack of comments talking about the actual things it can do, I'm guessing it's fairly difficult to use for anything beyond admiring it's build quality
- conorcleary 4y ago
  And all Apple consumers use all available features.
- evilbob93 4y ago
  the quickest hit of functionality is duplicating buttons from your remotes. Next it's fun to mess with the screens at the pub. Somewhere along the way, realizing that someone out there has the remote you lost long ago and all you really want is an on/off button and now you can get one. For me so far it's a universal remote with a kind of weird interface.

edm0nd 4y ago

I would say yes! It's great for beginners as it has a huge and friendly community behind it and you can easily work your way up from beginner to more intermediate/advanced.

_kbh_ 4y ago

Depends what your trying to do with it to be honest. If you just wanna use the i2c/spi/uart stuff you can probably handle it. If you can plug some cables in, at worst soldering cables or headers to a board and can find the pins/pads themselves you’ll be fine. At worst if you wanna try it out without spending so much money you can try out the bus pirate from dangerous prototypes it’s only ~27. http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate

shadowpho 4y ago

Flipper zero is more aimed at wireless hacking. Which is very cool, it's a fairly unexplored area of hacking (due to traditionally high barrier of entry), but is a subset of "hardware hacking". For general hardware hacking I'd get a pirate bus ($30), and a saelae logic clone (cheap). Maybe a nice cheap oscilloscope (but they go for $300+), but logic clone can get you mostly there.

suction 4y ago
How though when any interesting wireless target uses encryption?
_joel 4y ago
There's a load of GPIO on it too
- evilbob93 4y ago
  so far a relatively unexplored avenue. The Discord doesn't have a GPIO specialty last I looked but I've seen a few people wishing that there was one.
5bolts 4y ago
depends on what you need scope wise. several traditional looking ones on amazon in the 150 range. hantek handheld for 190.
birdman3131 4y ago
I just got my Pokit Pro multimeter in this week and it has an oscilloscope feature. Good for up to 600V. Not currently sure I would recommend it but Ive not found anything bad on it. It is almost $200 now though.

notatoad 4y ago

Given all the comments here praising the build quality and conspicuous lack of comments talking about the actual things it can do, I'm guessing it's fairly difficult to use for anything beyond admiring it's build quality

conorcleary 4y ago
And all Apple consumers use all available features.
evilbob93 4y ago
the quickest hit of functionality is duplicating buttons from your remotes. Next it's fun to mess with the screens at the pub. Somewhere along the way, realizing that someone out there has the remote you lost long ago and all you really want is an on/off button and now you can get one. For me so far it's a universal remote with a kind of weird interface.