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Oh please spare me this crap. This isn't true at all. I knew this was bs before switching to iphone but I was optimistic. Apple AirPlay is just pure trash, so

by avgDev 4y ago

Oh please spare me this crap. This isn't true at all. I knew this was bs before switching to iphone but I was optimistic. Apple AirPlay is just pure trash, so I have to use chromecast. My Apple watch keeps bugging out and notifying me few minutes late and requires restart of both devices. The device keeps connecting to open networks while my remembered home network is available. The camera lens has issues with glare in the sun. I got it because I plan on keeping the devices for 4-5 years, but the "it just works" is the worst kind of pro argument and has 0 information.

philliphaydon 4y ago
> Apple AirPlay is just pure trash, so I have to use chromecast. What's trash about it? Never had any issues with it, ever. > My Apple watch keeps bugging out and notifying me few minutes late and requires restart of both devices. Bugging out and notifying you a few minutes late for what? I get text messages on my watch at exactly the same time as my phone. > The device keeps connecting to open networks while my remembered home network is available. The device will only connect to networks you've connected to before. So this is user error. It's simple, forget that network. > The camera lens has issues with glare in the sun. This is a problem with any phone, or any camera?
- avgDev 4y ago
  AirPlay doesn't connect, disconnects and cannot reconnect. This is far from working. Chromecast is MUCH MUCH more reliable. Just go look on forums. The delayed notifications are also pretty common and addressed on many forums, even on apples. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7022042 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7022042 https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/jj8wpv/slowdelayed_notifications/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/jj8wpv/slowdela... The lens glare is extremely common on iphone 12/13, and I did NOT have glare this bad on my other devices. I believe some reviewers even mentioned it. https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhone13/comments/s0n095/iphon13_camera_lens_flare_issue_did_any_observed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhone13/comments/s0n095/iphon13_ca...
  - philliphaydon 4y ago
    I usually avoid using apple.com discussions as 'evidence'... > The lens glare is extremely common on iphone 12/13, and I did NOT have glare this bad on my other devices. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253200214 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253200214 You can go rent a $5000 DSLR Camera and a $10,000 lens and /still/ get lens glare, and it can be much worse. That's why people sometimes shoot with a polarizing filter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarizing_filter_(photography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarizing_filter_(photography... I'm unaware of /any/ phone camera that has a polarizer by default. But essentially, you will get it on ANY lens. This is not something that happens only on iPhone 12/13. ------------- > AirPlay doesn't connect, disconnects and cannot reconnect. I haven't seen AirPlay on non-apple devices but between my iPhone and Apple TV it works amazingly.
    - avgDev 4y ago
      Chromecast works ON ALL my devices TVs included, again unlike AirPlay.
      - philliphaydon 4y ago
        Sure, but Android TV sucks. I mean its 2022 and it's still laggy and slow compared to Apple TV. And slowly getting more and more adverts. Even on the fastest TVs its still slow compared to AppleTV. So it could be supported on every single device in the world, it's still a turd. What I've never understood is a high end Android decide is quite fast and responsive. Yet no matter how much hardware you throw at Android TV, its slow.
  - trasz 4y ago
    One time I’ve seen a similar problem was due to my home router screwing up multicast.
sbuk 4y ago
> Oh please spare me this crap Someone else's opinion isn't 'crap'. Like what you have proffered, is as much an opinion as the OP.
- avgDev 4y ago
  I actually provided some cons, unlike OP.
  - izolate 4y ago
    - avgDev 4y ago
      I ignored the first part of your comment. As some opinions in fact are just "crap". Python is the best. C# is so much better than Java. etc. Those opinions provide no value and are "CRAP", similarly like OPs comments that "it just WORKS". Do you also say your code is "just bad" during code reviews? That is quite constructive.
    - dang 4y ago
      Personal attacks will get you banned here, so please don't post like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- diffeomorphism 4y ago
  > Someone else's opinion isn't crap. Correct, but what has that to do with anything? They did not give an opinion but claimed several points as fact. These claims were crap.
pdimitar 4y ago
Surely there's a better way to criticize somebody's take on a topic? iDevices aren't perfect but they cover 95% of what I need from them. Can it be better, much better even? Absolutely, yes. But your comment is painting a doom picture that is just not there for many people.
- avgDev 4y ago
  I'm responding to "it just works" comment. It's not perfect even though apple has complete control over the ecosystem. The hardware is great but let's not pretend its perfect.
  - pdimitar 4y ago
    I don't think anyone here is pretending that it's perfect. It's just that your hyperbolic language in the other direction of the argument is giving off the wrong impression IMO. I also don't think "it just works" implies perfect operation 100% of the time either. Usually it means "it doesn't work rarely enough that I don't notice".
lynndotpy 4y ago
All my experiences with Apple have been far below the expectations set by "it just works". For example, don't use an Apple smartwatch to keep time (the clock will fall behind and stay there, even after interacting with the display to "wake" it up.) The "Pencil 2" stylus they sell for iPads can't be used exclusively. (E.g. activating the "Command Center" requires you use your finger.) They build advertisements into the OS (very notable if you don't use iCloud) and reset preferences willy-nilly (such as if you have iMessage disabled.) I hope more people talk about these issues, I'd love to see Apple pressured to make meaningful improvements.
dang 4y ago
Please don't call names or post in the flamewar style to HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. You can make your substantive points without that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32166399 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32166399.
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by avgDev 4y ago

philliphaydon 4y ago

> Apple AirPlay is just pure trash, so I have to use chromecast. What's trash about it? Never had any issues with it, ever. > My Apple watch keeps bugging out and notifying me few minutes late and requires restart of both devices. Bugging out and notifying you a few minutes late for what? I get text messages on my watch at exactly the same time as my phone. > The device keeps connecting to open networks while my remembered home network is available. The device will only connect to networks you've connected to before. So this is user error. It's simple, forget that network. > The camera lens has issues with glare in the sun. This is a problem with any phone, or any camera?

avgDev 4y ago
AirPlay doesn't connect, disconnects and cannot reconnect. This is far from working. Chromecast is MUCH MUCH more reliable. Just go look on forums. The delayed notifications are also pretty common and addressed on many forums, even on apples. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7022042 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7022042 https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/jj8wpv/slowdelayed_notifications/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/jj8wpv/slowdela... The lens glare is extremely common on iphone 12/13, and I did NOT have glare this bad on my other devices. I believe some reviewers even mentioned it. https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhone13/comments/s0n095/iphon13_camera_lens_flare_issue_did_any_observed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhone13/comments/s0n095/iphon13_ca...
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  I usually avoid using apple.com discussions as 'evidence'... > The lens glare is extremely common on iphone 12/13, and I did NOT have glare this bad on my other devices. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253200214 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253200214 You can go rent a $5000 DSLR Camera and a $10,000 lens and /still/ get lens glare, and it can be much worse. That's why people sometimes shoot with a polarizing filter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarizing_filter_(photography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarizing_filter_(photography... I'm unaware of /any/ phone camera that has a polarizer by default. But essentially, you will get it on ANY lens. This is not something that happens only on iPhone 12/13. ------------- > AirPlay doesn't connect, disconnects and cannot reconnect. I haven't seen AirPlay on non-apple devices but between my iPhone and Apple TV it works amazingly.
  - avgDev 4y ago
    Chromecast works ON ALL my devices TVs included, again unlike AirPlay.
    - philliphaydon 4y ago
      Sure, but Android TV sucks. I mean its 2022 and it's still laggy and slow compared to Apple TV. And slowly getting more and more adverts. Even on the fastest TVs its still slow compared to AppleTV. So it could be supported on every single device in the world, it's still a turd. What I've never understood is a high end Android decide is quite fast and responsive. Yet no matter how much hardware you throw at Android TV, its slow.
- trasz 4y ago
  One time I’ve seen a similar problem was due to my home router screwing up multicast.

sbuk 4y ago

> Oh please spare me this crap Someone else's opinion isn't 'crap'. Like what you have proffered, is as much an opinion as the OP.

avgDev 4y ago
I actually provided some cons, unlike OP.
- izolate 4y ago
  - avgDev 4y ago
    I ignored the first part of your comment. As some opinions in fact are just "crap". Python is the best. C# is so much better than Java. etc. Those opinions provide no value and are "CRAP", similarly like OPs comments that "it just WORKS". Do you also say your code is "just bad" during code reviews? That is quite constructive.
  - dang 4y ago
    Personal attacks will get you banned here, so please don't post like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
diffeomorphism 4y ago
> Someone else's opinion isn't crap. Correct, but what has that to do with anything? They did not give an opinion but claimed several points as fact. These claims were crap.

pdimitar 4y ago

Surely there's a better way to criticize somebody's take on a topic? iDevices aren't perfect but they cover 95% of what I need from them. Can it be better, much better even? Absolutely, yes. But your comment is painting a doom picture that is just not there for many people.

avgDev 4y ago
I'm responding to "it just works" comment. It's not perfect even though apple has complete control over the ecosystem. The hardware is great but let's not pretend its perfect.
- pdimitar 4y ago
  I don't think anyone here is pretending that it's perfect. It's just that your hyperbolic language in the other direction of the argument is giving off the wrong impression IMO. I also don't think "it just works" implies perfect operation 100% of the time either. Usually it means "it doesn't work rarely enough that I don't notice".

lynndotpy 4y ago

All my experiences with Apple have been far below the expectations set by "it just works". For example, don't use an Apple smartwatch to keep time (the clock will fall behind and stay there, even after interacting with the display to "wake" it up.) The "Pencil 2" stylus they sell for iPads can't be used exclusively. (E.g. activating the "Command Center" requires you use your finger.) They build advertisements into the OS (very notable if you don't use iCloud) and reset preferences willy-nilly (such as if you have iMessage disabled.) I hope more people talk about these issues, I'd love to see Apple pressured to make meaningful improvements.

dang 4y ago

Please don't call names or post in the flamewar style to HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. You can make your substantive points without that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32166399 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32166399.

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