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Nothing stops you of staying in the garden though. Just don't install anything Apple and you'd be golden.

throw10920 4y ago
Now that there's a way out, however, you can be forced out if e.g. you have to install an app that isn't available in the App Store because its developer saw an opportunity to roll their own. Not saying that the trade isn't worth it, just that, well, now that Pandora's box is open, it's coming to get you, even if you don't want it to.
- gostsamo 4y ago
  This is situation with many conditionals: 1. Apple won't stay competitive for its major partners in the app store. 2. The app will be really important for you with no alternatives. 3. It will be both important and won't be up to your standards established by Apple. My suspicion is that if it provides really interesting functionality, it will have enough competition that you will be able to choose from. The major danger comes from scams targeting uneducated users, however, if Apple really wants to protect them, it will make everything possible to maintain their app store as a viable distribution channel.
  - throw10920 4y ago
    > My suspicion is that if it provides really interesting functionality, it will have enough competition that you will be able to choose from. I'm thinking of scenarios where you don't specifically want the app, nor does it offer any particularly interesting functionality - it's just a platform lock-in effect. As a trivial instance, you can't install Fortnite on Windows machines without going through the Epic Store. Yet, the value of Fortnite isn't how the game plays, but the skins & community - things that cannot be replicated by another app.
- krzyk 4y ago
  > Now that there's a way out, however, you can be forced out if e.g. you have to install an app that isn't available in the App Store because its developer saw an opportunity to roll their own. This is something iPhone uses use all the time and this did not happen on Android. Some people just like golden handcufs.
dane-pgp 4y ago
At first I thought you had missed a word or two ("don't install anything unapproved by Apple"?), but then I decided this was deliberate as you're making a reference to Adam and Eve.
- gostsamo 4y ago
  well, it was honest mistake, but I like your interpretation

Now that there's a way out, however, you can be forced out if e.g. you have to install an app that isn't available in the App Store because its developer saw an opportunity to roll their own. Not saying that the trade isn't worth it, just that, well, now that Pandora's box is open, it's coming to get you, even if you don't want it to.

gostsamo 4y ago
This is situation with many conditionals: 1. Apple won't stay competitive for its major partners in the app store. 2. The app will be really important for you with no alternatives. 3. It will be both important and won't be up to your standards established by Apple. My suspicion is that if it provides really interesting functionality, it will have enough competition that you will be able to choose from. The major danger comes from scams targeting uneducated users, however, if Apple really wants to protect them, it will make everything possible to maintain their app store as a viable distribution channel.
- throw10920 4y ago
  > My suspicion is that if it provides really interesting functionality, it will have enough competition that you will be able to choose from. I'm thinking of scenarios where you don't specifically want the app, nor does it offer any particularly interesting functionality - it's just a platform lock-in effect. As a trivial instance, you can't install Fortnite on Windows machines without going through the Epic Store. Yet, the value of Fortnite isn't how the game plays, but the skins & community - things that cannot be replicated by another app.
krzyk 4y ago
> Now that there's a way out, however, you can be forced out if e.g. you have to install an app that isn't available in the App Store because its developer saw an opportunity to roll their own. This is something iPhone uses use all the time and this did not happen on Android. Some people just like golden handcufs.

dane-pgp 4y ago

At first I thought you had missed a word or two ("don't install anything unapproved by Apple"?), but then I decided this was deliberate as you're making a reference to Adam and Eve.

gostsamo 4y ago
well, it was honest mistake, but I like your interpretation