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Very good recommendation. I was taken to this movie by my (secondary school, I believe) teacher. It really moved me, although I don't agree with suggestion tha

Very good recommendation. I was taken to this movie by my (secondary school, I believe) teacher. It really moved me, although I don't agree with suggestion that movie is making: staying neutral is the worst choice you can make. Especially in communist Poland it was probably best choice to avoid jail/torture/execution and shame of collaboration at the same time.

Swizec 4y ago
> staying neutral is the worst choice > best choice to avoid jail/torture/execution See that’s the thing with rhetoric. It’s easy to say from the safety of our modern lives. Or as my mom used to say: “It’s easy to shit when your butt is full” Growing up in almost eastern europe (slovenia), you’d hear a lot of stories from ye olden days of what was and wasn’t said. What people did and didn’t do. At the end of the day, you can be all the hero you want, but the only thing that matters long-term is whether you got scooped up into the murder pits or not. Objectively, neither side was that great. In the 60’s and 70’s we built memorials to fallen comrades bravely fighting the fascist oppressor. In the 90’s and 00’s we built memorials to the fallen souls bravely dying in communist murder pits during that same period. shrug
- foobarian 4y ago
  Sometimes when my elders reminisced about the darker parts of that era they mentioned "getting swallowed by the night." One other fun story from a relative who participated in a work action just after war building a railroad. It was pouring rain, and that day Tito came through to visit/peptalk. According to her, he said "Is it raining comrade?" to which she retorted "It is not raining comrade Tito, it is a sunny day!"
  - mistrial9 4y ago
    US military type guys with truck caps doing manual labor on some strict team say exactly this kind of nonsense too, right now.
KptMarchewa 4y ago
>Especially in communist Poland it was probably best choice to avoid jail/torture/execution and shame of collaboration at the same time. Till 1956? Yes. After? The regime was bad, but less violent like some of the modern dictatorships, for example current Putin's Russia. Low level activism could result in losing job, but not execution. Imagine that perpetrators of Navalny poisoning were actually tried: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Popie%C5%82uszko https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Popie%C5%82uszko
- odiroot 4y ago
  It returned in the 80's. Many people were "disappeared". A few members of my family were interned. One was brutally beaten and tortured and never recovered from it.

Swizec 4y ago

> staying neutral is the worst choice > best choice to avoid jail/torture/execution See that’s the thing with rhetoric. It’s easy to say from the safety of our modern lives. Or as my mom used to say: “It’s easy to shit when your butt is full” Growing up in almost eastern europe (slovenia), you’d hear a lot of stories from ye olden days of what was and wasn’t said. What people did and didn’t do. At the end of the day, you can be all the hero you want, but the only thing that matters long-term is whether you got scooped up into the murder pits or not. Objectively, neither side was that great. In the 60’s and 70’s we built memorials to fallen comrades bravely fighting the fascist oppressor. In the 90’s and 00’s we built memorials to the fallen souls bravely dying in communist murder pits during that same period. shrug

foobarian 4y ago
Sometimes when my elders reminisced about the darker parts of that era they mentioned "getting swallowed by the night." One other fun story from a relative who participated in a work action just after war building a railroad. It was pouring rain, and that day Tito came through to visit/peptalk. According to her, he said "Is it raining comrade?" to which she retorted "It is not raining comrade Tito, it is a sunny day!"
- mistrial9 4y ago
  US military type guys with truck caps doing manual labor on some strict team say exactly this kind of nonsense too, right now.

KptMarchewa 4y ago

>Especially in communist Poland it was probably best choice to avoid jail/torture/execution and shame of collaboration at the same time. Till 1956? Yes. After? The regime was bad, but less violent like some of the modern dictatorships, for example current Putin's Russia. Low level activism could result in losing job, but not execution. Imagine that perpetrators of Navalny poisoning were actually tried: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Popie%C5%82uszko https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Popie%C5%82uszko

odiroot 4y ago
It returned in the 80's. Many people were "disappeared". A few members of my family were interned. One was brutally beaten and tortured and never recovered from it.