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How? I've been looking for ages on how to develop iPhone applications on Linux and there is no way that doesn't involve installing Hackingtosh, either as a new

How? I've been looking for ages on how to develop iPhone applications on Linux and there is no way that doesn't involve installing Hackingtosh, either as a new OS on a partition or in a VM, or renting a Mac server somewhere, so it's not really "developing on Linux" at all.

iasay 4y ago
Um, you just create a cert in XCode, pair your device to it, load the certs onto the device and run the app on it. You're not going to do it on a Linux box for sure as the tools aren't there but you certainly can run your own stuff on iOS. You don't have to sign up for anything either - just install XCode from the app store and build stuff.
- capableweb 4y ago
  Ah, I see. You completely missed the point... > I can start writing software on Linux for iPhone, without requiring me to have a Mac > we'll be able to develop iPhone applications from any operating system, but first Linux > how to develop iPhone applications on Linux ^ is what I wrote, and you suggest "just install XCode from the app store"? Not sure how that's compatible. Regardless, I hope we end with a phone that people can actually install their own software on, regardless of what laptops/desktop computer they own.
  - iasay 4y ago
    That's never going to happen and I'd rather Apple spent money on something else other than make it happen. The issue is you don't have a Mac and that's really your problem, not theirs.
    - HelloNurse 4y ago
      Random anecdote: if you don't pay 99€ yearly for your developer subscription Apple revokes your certificates and disables your apps on the Apple app store. Your problem indeed.
      - iasay 4y ago
        You don't have to pay Apple to deploy to your own device. I don't have a developer subscription. You only have to pay the 99€ to access the store and provisioning.
        bpye 4y ago
        Your certs only last 7 days and IIRC you can only deploy 3 apps if you don't pay the 99$/year though.
        HelloNurse 4y ago
        Installation from an app store has become a reasonable customer expectation for most kinds of smartphone/tablet software.

iasay 4y ago

Um, you just create a cert in XCode, pair your device to it, load the certs onto the device and run the app on it. You're not going to do it on a Linux box for sure as the tools aren't there but you certainly can run your own stuff on iOS. You don't have to sign up for anything either - just install XCode from the app store and build stuff.

capableweb 4y ago
Ah, I see. You completely missed the point... > I can start writing software on Linux for iPhone, without requiring me to have a Mac > we'll be able to develop iPhone applications from any operating system, but first Linux > how to develop iPhone applications on Linux ^ is what I wrote, and you suggest "just install XCode from the app store"? Not sure how that's compatible. Regardless, I hope we end with a phone that people can actually install their own software on, regardless of what laptops/desktop computer they own.
- iasay 4y ago
  That's never going to happen and I'd rather Apple spent money on something else other than make it happen. The issue is you don't have a Mac and that's really your problem, not theirs.
  - HelloNurse 4y ago
    Random anecdote: if you don't pay 99€ yearly for your developer subscription Apple revokes your certificates and disables your apps on the Apple app store. Your problem indeed.
    - iasay 4y ago
      You don't have to pay Apple to deploy to your own device. I don't have a developer subscription. You only have to pay the 99€ to access the store and provisioning.
      - bpye 4y ago
        Your certs only last 7 days and IIRC you can only deploy 3 apps if you don't pay the 99$/year though.
      - HelloNurse 4y ago
        Installation from an app store has become a reasonable customer expectation for most kinds of smartphone/tablet software.