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I don't like the "simpler, more innocent" phrasing, at least if we consider the innocent ~ naive connotations. It obfuscates that not spending resources on atta

I don't like the "simpler, more innocent" phrasing, at least if we consider the innocent ~ naive connotations. It obfuscates that not spending resources on attacks and the perpetual defenses that would render the attacks useless make the system multi-agent optimal as long as those actors don't have extreme future discounting - i.e. as long as they don't try to maximize short-term gains at the expense of making the system less valuable for everyone. And the protocols started out in such an environment where it wasn't really "innocent" to not waste huge amounts of engineering on defenses, it was the sensible thing to do.

b112 4y ago
It all comes back to data collection. All of it. No market, means no motive. If absolutely all collection of Pii was made illegal, or perhaps even all sale of any data based upon it, be it anonomized or not, things would rapidly change. Even better to make illegal all targeted marketing, based upon stored data or info about a user. Adtech would still exist. If you visit a reddit about showers, show shower ads. You don't need to know a single thing, except the page currently visited is about showers... so show shower ads. All of it, massive issues with our democracies, with spying, with tracking, with price fixing, all of it comes back to, what is now, a purely evil industry. User tracking. Take the profit away from all collectable data about a user, and watch things improve fast.
- riedel 4y ago
  The GDPR makes processing of PII illegal by default and then adds clearly defined exceptions. The problem are IMHO not the exceptions but the enforcement problem that persists. I see a huge risk in centralising DNS records resolvers. Being able to set a default DoH resolver for all your devices is adding another layer of tracking after centralised WiFi location resolvers. Like browser choices, resolver choices need to be displayed to the user at setup. We need a competition on trust rather than on convenience.

b112 4y ago

It all comes back to data collection. All of it. No market, means no motive. If absolutely all collection of Pii was made illegal, or perhaps even all sale of any data based upon it, be it anonomized or not, things would rapidly change. Even better to make illegal all targeted marketing, based upon stored data or info about a user. Adtech would still exist. If you visit a reddit about showers, show shower ads. You don't need to know a single thing, except the page currently visited is about showers... so show shower ads. All of it, massive issues with our democracies, with spying, with tracking, with price fixing, all of it comes back to, what is now, a purely evil industry. User tracking. Take the profit away from all collectable data about a user, and watch things improve fast.

riedel 4y ago
The GDPR makes processing of PII illegal by default and then adds clearly defined exceptions. The problem are IMHO not the exceptions but the enforcement problem that persists. I see a huge risk in centralising DNS records resolvers. Being able to set a default DoH resolver for all your devices is adding another layer of tracking after centralised WiFi location resolvers. Like browser choices, resolver choices need to be displayed to the user at setup. We need a competition on trust rather than on convenience.