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It is both okay to stop and do other things eventually and it also counts as ‘breaking’

BobbyJo 4y ago
So no one can ever quit without it being considered 'breaking'? If not, what would distinguish between 'breaking' and not 'breaking'? Surely, if one can quit without it being considered breaking, resigning while on top is how.
- Accacin 4y ago
  For me it's the intent at the time a decision was made.
  - BobbyJo 4y ago
    What intent constitutes 'breaking'?
    - noirbot 4y ago
      It's a temporal question. If you decide in the middle of a competition that you don't care any more and want to quit/forfeit/throw the match, then you broke. You committed to playing an event, presumably because you thought you could win or at least compete, and instead your mental stamina broke and you gave up. IMO, it's less the intent that you have when you quit - the intent is almost always at that point that you don't want to be there any more doing the thing. The more important part is the intent that led up to the moment where you quit. In some ways, it's similar to quitting any job. If you just have a bad day or week at work and put in your resignation with no other plan because you just can't stand coming in to work again, you "broke". If you're still working, but interviewing elsewhere, get another job, put in your notice and walk away with something else lined up, it's a bit different.
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
  You can honorably lose while giving it all, like most other champions did, except Fischer, who forfeited, and Alekhin, who died while holding the title.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  Yes, quitting is always breaking. It is just that breaking isn't always a bad thing for the player
pverghese 4y ago
So the only way for it not to be considered not 'breaking' is by losing. That makes no sense
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
  Well, there is another way: you can die undefeated, like Alekhin. Yes, every championship title eventually goes to someone else.
- dwighttk 4y ago
  Um no. Losing is also breaking. Breaking doesn’t have a moral component, it is just losing. The world champion isn’t morally better than everyone, he just wins against challengers.
rsync 4y ago
Counterpoint: John Elway.
- dwighttk 4y ago
  I don’t understand

So no one can ever quit without it being considered 'breaking'? If not, what would distinguish between 'breaking' and not 'breaking'? Surely, if one can quit without it being considered breaking, resigning while on top is how.

Accacin 4y ago
For me it's the intent at the time a decision was made.
- BobbyJo 4y ago
  What intent constitutes 'breaking'?
  - noirbot 4y ago
    It's a temporal question. If you decide in the middle of a competition that you don't care any more and want to quit/forfeit/throw the match, then you broke. You committed to playing an event, presumably because you thought you could win or at least compete, and instead your mental stamina broke and you gave up. IMO, it's less the intent that you have when you quit - the intent is almost always at that point that you don't want to be there any more doing the thing. The more important part is the intent that led up to the moment where you quit. In some ways, it's similar to quitting any job. If you just have a bad day or week at work and put in your resignation with no other plan because you just can't stand coming in to work again, you "broke". If you're still working, but interviewing elsewhere, get another job, put in your notice and walk away with something else lined up, it's a bit different.
Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
You can honorably lose while giving it all, like most other champions did, except Fischer, who forfeited, and Alekhin, who died while holding the title.
s1artibartfast 4y ago
Yes, quitting is always breaking. It is just that breaking isn't always a bad thing for the player

pverghese 4y ago

So the only way for it not to be considered not 'breaking' is by losing. That makes no sense

Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
Well, there is another way: you can die undefeated, like Alekhin. Yes, every championship title eventually goes to someone else.
dwighttk 4y ago
Um no. Losing is also breaking. Breaking doesn’t have a moral component, it is just losing. The world champion isn’t morally better than everyone, he just wins against challengers.

rsync 4y ago

Counterpoint: John Elway.

dwighttk 4y ago
I don’t understand