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Google Cloud offers Ampere servers in multiple regions under label T2A for quite some time now and probably Alibaba Cloud / Huawei Cloud (haven't verified) and

by rvnx 4y ago

Google Cloud offers Ampere servers in multiple regions under label T2A for quite some time now and probably Alibaba Cloud / Huawei Cloud (haven't verified) and others

baobob 4y ago
None of these are European companies. It already matters to some today, but due to policy pushes within Europe over the next 10 years it is going to matter to a whole lot more
- esseti 4y ago
  that's a point that many (too many) people misses right now. it will cause a lot of problem. If someone is able to reproduce (somehow) what AWS / Google does fro cloud, but with an EU company, they will have a lot of new customers very soon.
  - rvnx 4y ago
    It's a common confusion, but when you contract with Google Cloud, the service is provided by "Google Cloud EMEA Limited, Ireland", which is an European company, and when they provide you with a datacenter in Europe they are totally an European company operating in Europe. This is different for example to DigitalOcean LLC, that is a US-entity providing service to European customers (this example has to be verified, but that's what I remember).
    - baobob 4y ago
      This is a distinction that will be increasingly lost on EU regulators, more so than it already is today.
      - waffleiron 4y ago
        It is lost on regulators due to CLOUD act. The parent company still can access the personal data stored by subsidiaries.
    - openplatypus 4y ago
      Google Cloud EMEA Limited, Ireland is subsidiary of US entity. It could just as well could be a US company with respect to privacy laws and regulations.
joyfylbanana 4y ago
Do they offer dedicated servers?
- tecleandor 4y ago
  AFAIK, Google's Bare Metal offerings are Intel only.
dx034 4y ago
They only offer virtual servers, not dedicated servers. In the end it shouldn't matter too much, but dedicated servers tend to be much cheaper.
- joyfylbanana 4y ago
  Also some people might prefer dedicated over virtual for whatever reasons.
  - dx034 4y ago
    It can be an extra layer of security. At some point in the future there will probably be another exploit in supervisors or hardware that can be used to spy on other tenants. With dedicated servers that becomes harder. I've heard of large companies that require their own hosts. But then again, if you're big enough it really makes sense to build your private cloud anyway.

by rvnx 4y ago

Google Cloud offers Ampere servers in multiple regions under label T2A for quite some time now and probably Alibaba Cloud / Huawei Cloud (haven't verified) and others

baobob 4y ago

None of these are European companies. It already matters to some today, but due to policy pushes within Europe over the next 10 years it is going to matter to a whole lot more

esseti 4y ago
that's a point that many (too many) people misses right now. it will cause a lot of problem. If someone is able to reproduce (somehow) what AWS / Google does fro cloud, but with an EU company, they will have a lot of new customers very soon.
- rvnx 4y ago
  It's a common confusion, but when you contract with Google Cloud, the service is provided by "Google Cloud EMEA Limited, Ireland", which is an European company, and when they provide you with a datacenter in Europe they are totally an European company operating in Europe. This is different for example to DigitalOcean LLC, that is a US-entity providing service to European customers (this example has to be verified, but that's what I remember).
  - baobob 4y ago
    This is a distinction that will be increasingly lost on EU regulators, more so than it already is today.
    - waffleiron 4y ago
      It is lost on regulators due to CLOUD act. The parent company still can access the personal data stored by subsidiaries.
  - openplatypus 4y ago
    Google Cloud EMEA Limited, Ireland is subsidiary of US entity. It could just as well could be a US company with respect to privacy laws and regulations.

joyfylbanana 4y ago

Do they offer dedicated servers?

tecleandor 4y ago
AFAIK, Google's Bare Metal offerings are Intel only.

dx034 4y ago

They only offer virtual servers, not dedicated servers. In the end it shouldn't matter too much, but dedicated servers tend to be much cheaper.

joyfylbanana 4y ago
Also some people might prefer dedicated over virtual for whatever reasons.
- dx034 4y ago
  It can be an extra layer of security. At some point in the future there will probably be another exploit in supervisors or hardware that can be used to spy on other tenants. With dedicated servers that becomes harder. I've heard of large companies that require their own hosts. But then again, if you're big enough it really makes sense to build your private cloud anyway.