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> Come hang out in Southeast Portland for a few days and you'll gather what I'm referring to. I live in Portland by PSU. I used to live in inner SE off Belmont

> Come hang out in Southeast Portland for a few days and you'll gather what I'm referring to. I live in Portland by PSU. I used to live in inner SE off Belmont. You’re 100% talking out your ass. I would put money you don’t talk to anyone OR as others have said are only talking to those living on the street. You’re manipulating things to fit your narrative it’s gross. Please stop. The subset of people you’re attempting to identify are by and large suffering from mental illness and/or abuse. They don’t need you to misrepresent them and portray them as lazy, bourgeois, and/or unwilling to work. It’s completely disgusting behavior to do so and you should feel shame.

selimthegrim 4y ago
I used to live in SE Portland and I distinctly remember an earnest topic of conversation at Roadside Attraction (among people who presumably had the money to pay for their drinks) being the necessity of working for a living.
- noduerme 4y ago
  They do exist... capitalists in Portland, I mean. I have friends who hold the values of hard work. But it's considered a virtue to signal that you think work is unfair and somehow demeaning. Also, Roadside tends to be a slightly older crowd and generate better than average conversations. I love that place.
  - selimthegrim 4y ago
    These people were my age (mid 20s-early 30s)
noduerme 4y ago
Shame? No, I feel disgust at the bourgeoisie in Pdx who make excuses for them (and try to shame others into doing so. That doesn't work on me). I'm not just talking about the dropouts. I'm talking about the pervasive attitude of people who do work that life's so unfair, that dropping out is a rational and excusable option. That the system is so broken it's not worth fixing. FWIW I also live in inner SE and it has changed drastically for the worse in the last few years. But I can assure you, one thing hasn't changed, I still talk to tons of people from all walks of life. I can walk a few blocks in any direction and run into a dozen people I know and who know me by name.

selimthegrim 4y ago

I used to live in SE Portland and I distinctly remember an earnest topic of conversation at Roadside Attraction (among people who presumably had the money to pay for their drinks) being the necessity of working for a living.

noduerme 4y ago
They do exist... capitalists in Portland, I mean. I have friends who hold the values of hard work. But it's considered a virtue to signal that you think work is unfair and somehow demeaning. Also, Roadside tends to be a slightly older crowd and generate better than average conversations. I love that place.
- selimthegrim 4y ago
  These people were my age (mid 20s-early 30s)

noduerme 4y ago

Shame? No, I feel disgust at the bourgeoisie in Pdx who make excuses for them (and try to shame others into doing so. That doesn't work on me). I'm not just talking about the dropouts. I'm talking about the pervasive attitude of people who do work that life's so unfair, that dropping out is a rational and excusable option. That the system is so broken it's not worth fixing. FWIW I also live in inner SE and it has changed drastically for the worse in the last few years. But I can assure you, one thing hasn't changed, I still talk to tons of people from all walks of life. I can walk a few blocks in any direction and run into a dozen people I know and who know me by name.