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? This sounds like fiction, have any actual numbers? Even nuke prices outside of the US and Europe are barely more expensive these days than the cost of wind a
by StillBored 4y ago
? This sounds like fiction, have any actual numbers?
Even nuke prices outside of the US and Europe are barely more expensive these days than the cost of wind and a gas plant, making them actually less expensive when the gas plant fuel costs are factored in over its lifespan.
Spend some time with: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=nuclear+construction+prices&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=nuclear+construction+prices...
For starters lets look at:
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11132930/nuclear-power-costs-us-france-korea https://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11132930/nuclear-power-costs-u...
which has such wonderful nuggets as:
"A breakthrough came in 1963 with GE's contract to build a low-cost light-water reactor at Oyster Creek, New Jersey. By the late 1960s, overnight construction costs for new reactors had dropped to $600 to $900/kW in today's dollars — cheaper than modern gas plants. Atomic energy was on a roll."
The cost is basically bullcrap, even now, if you look at the prices for American and French companies to build plants in China sure its more than a wind farm, but actually about the same per KW when you factor in the gas plant needed to backup that wind farm, nevermind solar...
https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/china-nuclear-power.aspx https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-pr...
And those are basically one off, if you think the Chinese are going to be paying those premiums for their own home grown designs I think your probably missing the past 25 years or so of Chinese economic theory, which is summarized as learn how to build it utilizing foreign companies, frequently at great cost, build a few experimental copies/etc and then start stamping out home grown designs for a fraction of the cost. That is after all why your solar panels are so inexpensive. At least where I'm at though, the price of solar hasn't really declined much over the past 15 years or so, because the labor costs now account for probably 2/3th+ of the installed system costs. Going from a $1.50 a W panels to $.60 panels while the install cost climbs at a faster rate hasn't been a winning combination.
- ncmncm 4y agoLet us know when you have installed a nuke in your house. Comparing cost of rooftop solar here to utility-scale nukes in countries with lax safety regulations and enforcement says more about you than about utility costs. We already have gas plants, and would anyway need them regardless, so including them in the cost of the renewables is special pleading. These tricks do not fool anybody. Shame on you.