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If you look at some basic tests you can see it quickly heats up to about 105 degrees Celsius. And leading to degraded performance. And that is without even touc
by rowanG077 4y ago
If you look at some basic tests you can see it quickly heats up to about 105 degrees Celsius. And leading to degraded performance. And that is without even touching the GPU. I honestly was really excited about the M series. But it seems Apple is going down the exact some route they did with Intel. Massively underperforming in the thermal department. I pray this is an outlier. Or at the very least the pro series will not have this problem again.
- bgdkbtv 4y agoYeah seems that way. It sucks because I was seriously considering this machine, but it looks like Apple made this machine to just push more people towards their Pro line up.
- _aavaa_ 4y agoApple made this machine for those who want a laptop that doesn’t need sustained heavy workloads, I.e. most people in the general population.
- bgdkbtv 4y agoYeah that's me lol, my 2015 tbMBP is only used for watching movies and replying to emails. For everything else there is a desktop
- justsomehnguy 4y ago>most people in the general population. And we have a winner! It's quite surprising (well actually it's not) what there are many people who thinks what Apple does things for their use case, which is usually something like recompiling Chrome or something.
- threeseed 4y agoBy all means list the 5+ minute long sustained workloads that ordinary people are running on their laptops. The only use cases for which the MBA is not sustainable are Pro ones e.g. 3D rendering, CFDs etc so it's hard to see how Apple is being unreasonable here.
- WastingMyTime89 4y ago> The only use cases for which the MBA is not sustainable are Pro ones e.g. 3D rendering, CFDs etc so it's hard to see how Apple is being unreasonable here. It's not about Apple being unreasonable. It's just that what you call "Pro use cases" could reasonably be done with the Air if it had slightly better thermal management in the same way an iPad Pro running macOs could replace a current MacBook Air. Apple likes to use these design decisions to segment its markets.
- _aavaa_ 4y agoYes, that's the point. The Air is targeted at the people who don't need to do those things and would rather the laptop be smaller and lighter. A MacBook Air with better thermal management is an entry level MacBook Pro.
- WastingMyTime89 4y agoNo, that's not the point. The Air is intentionally gimped by inefficient thermal management so people who want better performance have to buy a Pro. Apple could make the Air performs close to the entry level MacBook Pro but doesn't because that's how they segment. They have been quite good at introducing products which can compete on price while protecting their higher margin sales. It's a very common practice for Apple. In the same way their laptop and tablet offerings have been converging for years from a technical point of view but they intentionally limit what the tablet can do so has to not cannibalise their laptop sales.
- Tagbert 4y agoIf you prioritize sustained load performance, then the pro machines are designed for that. If you have less need for that or don't care about a mild slowdown on the rare occasions where you can push it into throttle territory, then the Air would be good for you. I would gladly trade away some maximum performance in order to get a cheaper, lighter machine that doesn't need a fan blowing. This is not about "gimping" the Air. it is about tailoring the balance of features, performance, and cost to meet the needs of different segments of customers.