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She keeps saying "everybody's going to tell me I'm a whiner" with a ridiculous tone. She is indeed a whiner. Not because of protesting YouTube's ridiculous cop

She keeps saying "everybody's going to tell me I'm a whiner" with a ridiculous tone. She is indeed a whiner. Not because of protesting YouTube's ridiculous copyright system, but because she uses that smug tone to talk to people who owe her nothing, and are making reasonable suggestions (like syncing with alternative platforms) for mitigating the problem.

mlyle 4y ago
Having other people seizing the fruits of your work is upsetting. Syncing to other platforms is just more work and doesn't prevent the primary problem. Calling her a whiner is unnecessary abuse.
- cato_the_elder 4y ago
  > Syncing to other platforms is just more work and doesn't prevent the primary problem. Maybe, but my objection isn't to the fact that she doesn't want to use alternative platforms. That's understandable. It's to how she looks down on people who dare to make that suggestion.
- cowtools 4y ago
  The immediate problem is that her video got flagged, but the "real" problem is being over-reliant on youtube without having any leverage against censorship and racketeering. Even if the immediate problem were fixed, it would ultimately not change anything in the long run because it would only motivate uploaders to continue entrenching themselves on the website. You cannot have real change without competition. Being called a whiner is not "abusive". She complains about the website, yet she goes on to unfairly disparage the alternatives. By the end of the video she is patting herself on the back for being a "youtuber" and staying loyal to the website.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  > Syncing to other platforms is just more work Welcome to adulthood. She wants a full time income doing something fun, using a free platform that does the marketing for her at no cost and complains when the rug gets pulled. This is business. Even in a job you can be replaced, fired or your skills go out of date. Life is a constant fight, everyone has to be up for that.
  - mlyle 4y ago
    > Life is a constant fight, everyone has to be up for that. Sorry, "being up for" being the target of racketeering and fraud-- I expect better than that.
    - quickthrower2 4y ago
      The only other option is to shrug though.
      - mlyle 4y ago
        There's a lot of ways to fight. "Whining" about YouTube in a way that stokes the outrage over current practices is also one. Indeed, one might say it's the only fight that matters, as other options just lead to unabated extortion.
- rasz 4y ago
  but calling someone tractor hitch rubber scrotum (or whatever that was) is a ok? :) The facts are she is whining while not willing to do anything about it (lawyer/contesting)

mlyle 4y ago

Having other people seizing the fruits of your work is upsetting. Syncing to other platforms is just more work and doesn't prevent the primary problem. Calling her a whiner is unnecessary abuse.

cato_the_elder 4y ago
> Syncing to other platforms is just more work and doesn't prevent the primary problem. Maybe, but my objection isn't to the fact that she doesn't want to use alternative platforms. That's understandable. It's to how she looks down on people who dare to make that suggestion.
cowtools 4y ago
The immediate problem is that her video got flagged, but the "real" problem is being over-reliant on youtube without having any leverage against censorship and racketeering. Even if the immediate problem were fixed, it would ultimately not change anything in the long run because it would only motivate uploaders to continue entrenching themselves on the website. You cannot have real change without competition. Being called a whiner is not "abusive". She complains about the website, yet she goes on to unfairly disparage the alternatives. By the end of the video she is patting herself on the back for being a "youtuber" and staying loyal to the website.
quickthrower2 4y ago
> Syncing to other platforms is just more work Welcome to adulthood. She wants a full time income doing something fun, using a free platform that does the marketing for her at no cost and complains when the rug gets pulled. This is business. Even in a job you can be replaced, fired or your skills go out of date. Life is a constant fight, everyone has to be up for that.
- mlyle 4y ago
  > Life is a constant fight, everyone has to be up for that. Sorry, "being up for" being the target of racketeering and fraud-- I expect better than that.
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    The only other option is to shrug though.
    - mlyle 4y ago
      There's a lot of ways to fight. "Whining" about YouTube in a way that stokes the outrage over current practices is also one. Indeed, one might say it's the only fight that matters, as other options just lead to unabated extortion.
rasz 4y ago
but calling someone tractor hitch rubber scrotum (or whatever that was) is a ok? :) The facts are she is whining while not willing to do anything about it (lawyer/contesting)