They used to have at least pretend they weren't doing it, because there was popular demand to avoid it. I miss those days. When we believed this was possible, a

They used to have at least pretend they weren't doing it, because there was popular demand to avoid it. I miss those days. When we believed this was possible, and there was demand for it, hope for it, and it was a real topic for international treaties, and governments had to figure out how to do it anyway. I'm not talking about 2007, but earlier. The evidence of that period is in the OP, that's the era he's talking about. Now nobody hopes for anything but forever war everywhere.