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Your up for a dose of cognitive dissonance. Hotz doesn't share your Tesla hate. He said numerous times, publicly, that Tesla will most likely win self driving

by kjksf 4y ago

Your up for a dose of cognitive dissonance. Hotz doesn't share your Tesla hate. He said numerous times, publicly, that Tesla will most likely win self driving. He doesn't think FSD is Fools Self Driving. He thinks FSD is ahead of openpilot. Hotz positions comma.ai as Android to Tesla's iOS i.e. a solution that is a little bit later and a little worse than FSD but open to all and better than 3rd or 4th best proprietary solution like cruise or waymo.

rvz 4y ago
> Hotz doesn't share your Tesla hate. I hope you have realised that it is both autopilot and especially 'FSD' which is the problem that needs to be investigated (which it currently is) and each time it has proven not only to be unsafe, but a deceptively advertised product and at most, a dangerous scam. So where did I say I hated all of Tesla Inc. again? > He said numerous times, publicly, that Tesla will most likely win self driving. He doesn't think FSD is Fools Self Driving. He thinks FSD is ahead of openpilot. He is entitled to his own opinions. I believe that unless Tesla complies with the many regulators around the problems I have already highlighted, it is still considered 'Fools Self Driving'. There is too much evidence to list here for the case for more regulations on this. Anything that is going to 'likely win self driving' must comply with strict regulations and standards in both advertising, safety and the actual functionality. Both Tesla's autopilot and FSD with its repeated safety issues and most critically, the 'driver monitoring system' (DMS) for detecting attentiveness and eyes on the road was at first using the wheel which that has shown to be beyond unsafe and easily bypassed by its users. Comma is a great example of a proper (DMS) with Level 3 autopilot capabilities which that has eye-tracking with night vision. Perhaps that's why Tesla had to learn from them for improving their DMS after woefully defending using the wheel for DMS and denying that they needed eye-tracking. So one of them detects if you are using the product and requiring the driver to have their eyes on the road at all times, whereas the other will not work at all, especially at the dangerous time to drive; which is at night.

by kjksf 4y ago

rvz 4y ago

> Hotz doesn't share your Tesla hate. I hope you have realised that it is both autopilot and especially 'FSD' which is the problem that needs to be investigated (which it currently is) and each time it has proven not only to be unsafe, but a deceptively advertised product and at most, a dangerous scam. So where did I say I hated all of Tesla Inc. again? > He said numerous times, publicly, that Tesla will most likely win self driving. He doesn't think FSD is Fools Self Driving. He thinks FSD is ahead of openpilot. He is entitled to his own opinions. I believe that unless Tesla complies with the many regulators around the problems I have already highlighted, it is still considered 'Fools Self Driving'. There is too much evidence to list here for the case for more regulations on this. Anything that is going to 'likely win self driving' must comply with strict regulations and standards in both advertising, safety and the actual functionality. Both Tesla's autopilot and FSD with its repeated safety issues and most critically, the 'driver monitoring system' (DMS) for detecting attentiveness and eyes on the road was at first using the wheel which that has shown to be beyond unsafe and easily bypassed by its users. Comma is a great example of a proper (DMS) with Level 3 autopilot capabilities which that has eye-tracking with night vision. Perhaps that's why Tesla had to learn from them for improving their DMS after woefully defending using the wheel for DMS and denying that they needed eye-tracking. So one of them detects if you are using the product and requiring the driver to have their eyes on the road at all times, whereas the other will not work at all, especially at the dangerous time to drive; which is at night.