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> It's unclear what utility this mindset has and how it will not lead to self-delusion. You gotta believe you are the best and let the chips fall where they ma

> It's unclear what utility this mindset has and how it will not lead to self-delusion. You gotta believe you are the best and let the chips fall where they may. Matter of fact if self-confidence and faith is high enough, you'd be having such a blast that you won't care where the chips fall at all. It's a way of cutting the corner, before you'd need accomplishments to be happy with yourself...after acquiring the faith you skip to the good part directly.

haswell 4y ago
> you'd be having such a blast that you won't care where the chips fall at all Why is this a good thing? This sounds like delusion, not having a blast. Humility is required to self-correct when you're off track. Humility and blind faith are incompatible. Humility and self confidence can co-exist, however. My religious parents will tell you how happy their faith makes them, but they also managed to traumatize their kids in the process. Blind faith leads to blind spots, predictably. Blind faith leads to dogmatism, which is at the root of today's tribalism. Blind faith should not be celebrated. Blind faith begets religion, of the god-variety and otherwise. But blind faith isn't required to be confident in oneself. It sounds counterintuitive, but If you want true peace, accepting and embracing your limitations is a freeing endeavor. The stoics figured this out, and have quite a few wise things to say about it. Maybe you and I have different interpretations of what you mean by blind faith, but the version I've been exposed to is a road that leads to more problems than it solves.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  You are approaching it like a problem to solve with the mindset of somebody who is trying to get self-confidence as a step in the direction of building something or achieve results. If you manage to get the self-confidence at a sky high level you won't care about building something or achieving goals. Mentally they'd be redundant and sort of pushing on a string given that your self satisfaction is maxed out already. You can't grasp it now because you imagine a person like that as deluded and 'not going anywhere' or even worse regressing, but if you manage to get in that state of mind, you'd be the one living it and having a blast inside your own head, not being an external observer judging. If you think about it's a way of cheating Mother Nature, for the rules are that she releases endorphines and satsifaction after a job well done. The person who manages to get in that state of mind endogenously would be de-facto ambushing Mother Nature and beating her up until she releases the endorphines without anything in exchange for it.
  - haswell 4y ago
    > If you manage to get the self-confidence at a sky high level you won't care about building something or achieving goals. I question the idea that a sky high level of self confidence is the ultimate antidote to everything that can go wrong in life. What you describe does not align with a modern understanding of human psychology and how we experience life. What happens the first time you encounter a painful failure? What if the failure was your fault?

haswell 4y ago

> you'd be having such a blast that you won't care where the chips fall at all Why is this a good thing? This sounds like delusion, not having a blast. Humility is required to self-correct when you're off track. Humility and blind faith are incompatible. Humility and self confidence can co-exist, however. My religious parents will tell you how happy their faith makes them, but they also managed to traumatize their kids in the process. Blind faith leads to blind spots, predictably. Blind faith leads to dogmatism, which is at the root of today's tribalism. Blind faith should not be celebrated. Blind faith begets religion, of the god-variety and otherwise. But blind faith isn't required to be confident in oneself. It sounds counterintuitive, but If you want true peace, accepting and embracing your limitations is a freeing endeavor. The stoics figured this out, and have quite a few wise things to say about it. Maybe you and I have different interpretations of what you mean by blind faith, but the version I've been exposed to is a road that leads to more problems than it solves.

Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
You are approaching it like a problem to solve with the mindset of somebody who is trying to get self-confidence as a step in the direction of building something or achieve results. If you manage to get the self-confidence at a sky high level you won't care about building something or achieving goals. Mentally they'd be redundant and sort of pushing on a string given that your self satisfaction is maxed out already. You can't grasp it now because you imagine a person like that as deluded and 'not going anywhere' or even worse regressing, but if you manage to get in that state of mind, you'd be the one living it and having a blast inside your own head, not being an external observer judging. If you think about it's a way of cheating Mother Nature, for the rules are that she releases endorphines and satsifaction after a job well done. The person who manages to get in that state of mind endogenously would be de-facto ambushing Mother Nature and beating her up until she releases the endorphines without anything in exchange for it.
- haswell 4y ago
  > If you manage to get the self-confidence at a sky high level you won't care about building something or achieving goals. I question the idea that a sky high level of self confidence is the ultimate antidote to everything that can go wrong in life. What you describe does not align with a modern understanding of human psychology and how we experience life. What happens the first time you encounter a painful failure? What if the failure was your fault?