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> including the report made by mueller Where are you getting your information? The report concludes that the investigation "did not establish that members of

> including the report made by mueller Where are you getting your information? The report concludes that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report

tomrod 4y ago
A better way to phrase that would be: "could not recommend prosecution of a sitting President and associate members for conspiring or coordinating with the Russian government in its election interference activities, but did lay out how prosecutors not under prosecutorial restrictions would do so in great detail."
- leereeves 4y ago
  That's not what the report says; that's what you wish Mueller had written. But I think Mueller is capable of writing what he means. And since you brought up prosecutors, let me ask the obvious question: why have none of the investigations against Trump resulted in charges?
  - nevereveragain 4y ago
    > that's what you wish Mueller had written. Pot/kettle/black https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/ https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigati... - Special Counsel Mueller declined to exonerate President Trump and instead detailed multiple episodes in which he engaged in obstructive conduct - The investigation “identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign” and established that the Trump Campaign “showed interest in WikiLeaks's releases of documents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate Clinton” - Russia engaged in extensive attacks on the U.S. election system in 2016 - The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity
    - leereeves 4y ago
      > instead detailed multiple episodes in which he engaged in obstructive conduct Yes, obstructive conduct. Not collusion with the Russians. The very fact that Mueller detailed episodes of obstructive conduct and not episodes of collusion reveals how little evidence there is to support allegations of collusion. And as for the obstruction, remember that an FBI lawyer pled guilty to doctoring an email that was submitted as part of a FISA application used to surveil Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.[1] And Igor Danchenko, the primary researcher of the infamous Steele Dossier, is awaiting trial for lying to the FBI about the dossier's sources. So is it really a crime to "obstruct" an investigation that is based on lies? Such an investigation should be shut down. 1: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-fbi-lawyer-kevin-clinesmith-pleads-guilty-first-criminal-charge-durham-probe/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-fbi-lawyer-kevin-clinesm...

tomrod 4y ago

A better way to phrase that would be: "could not recommend prosecution of a sitting President and associate members for conspiring or coordinating with the Russian government in its election interference activities, but did lay out how prosecutors not under prosecutorial restrictions would do so in great detail."

leereeves 4y ago
That's not what the report says; that's what you wish Mueller had written. But I think Mueller is capable of writing what he means. And since you brought up prosecutors, let me ask the obvious question: why have none of the investigations against Trump resulted in charges?
- nevereveragain 4y ago
  > that's what you wish Mueller had written. Pot/kettle/black https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/ https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigati... - Special Counsel Mueller declined to exonerate President Trump and instead detailed multiple episodes in which he engaged in obstructive conduct - The investigation “identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign” and established that the Trump Campaign “showed interest in WikiLeaks's releases of documents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate Clinton” - Russia engaged in extensive attacks on the U.S. election system in 2016 - The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity
  - leereeves 4y ago
    > instead detailed multiple episodes in which he engaged in obstructive conduct Yes, obstructive conduct. Not collusion with the Russians. The very fact that Mueller detailed episodes of obstructive conduct and not episodes of collusion reveals how little evidence there is to support allegations of collusion. And as for the obstruction, remember that an FBI lawyer pled guilty to doctoring an email that was submitted as part of a FISA application used to surveil Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.[1] And Igor Danchenko, the primary researcher of the infamous Steele Dossier, is awaiting trial for lying to the FBI about the dossier's sources. So is it really a crime to "obstruct" an investigation that is based on lies? Such an investigation should be shut down. 1: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-fbi-lawyer-kevin-clinesmith-pleads-guilty-first-criminal-charge-durham-probe/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-fbi-lawyer-kevin-clinesm...