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I personally wouldn't consider Gab far right but I certainly respect your opinion there. What are some sources you'd want in a tool like this? Next iteration i

I personally wouldn't consider Gab far right but I certainly respect your opinion there. What are some sources you'd want in a tool like this? Next iteration i want to add Hacker News but also make it extensible so you can add sites you like manually.

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pell 4y ago
>I personally wouldn't consider Gab far right but I certainly respect your opinion there. A story about how Republican Ron Johnson is a liability because he acknowledges that Joe Biden won the last US election is currently in the top 5 on Gab's frontpage. Many similar stories are highly ranked as well. It seems quite self-evident that Gab's main audience leans conservative (in the American sense) and that conspiracy theories à "stolen election" are quite popular there. These do seem quite "far right" to me even if they might have mainstream support at the moment. Another of your default options is "BitChute" which is a platform for similar content.
nyx 4y ago
Gab's userbase is described as far right in the lede of its Wikipedia article[0], which goes on to justify that descriptor by describing the types of views (neo-Nazism, white nationalism, antisemitism, QAnon, et al.) that can commonly be found there. Among the sources cited there is Fox News[1], which describes it as "known for attracting a far-right audience." To my understanding, Fox News is pretty commonly accepted as a news source that's right of center, and even they've run articles describing Gab as far right. I know it's uncool to do political bikeshedding on HN, but if you'll indulge my curiosity for a minute, how would you describe Gab's politics if not "far right," and are there any spaces you would personally label that way? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network) [1] https://www.foxnews.com/politics/social-media-platform-gabs-website-twitter-account-down https://www.foxnews.com/politics/social-media-platform-gabs-...
CobrastanJorji 4y ago
I entirely believe that you believe that, and that leaves me concerned for you. Gab is well past "right wing" and well into "company replies to the complaints about antisemitism with press statements reading 'JESUS IS KING'" territory. The site's content basically parrots whatever today's Republican most extreme talking point is. I just opened Gab's front page in an anonymous browser, and the first 3 posts were a "Let's go Brandon" joke, a salute to Hobby Lobby for defending Christian Nationalism, and a post about "Ron Johnson is a RINO because he thinks the President won the election." If you can read through this and think "this isn't far right," your perspective has been significantly influenced by whatever media you're consuming, and you need to look into deprogramming yourself.
pvg 4y ago
It's not really important whether one thinks Gab falls under the definition of 'far right' or not. What's clear by now is that it's a site for Nazis rather than what it tried to pass itself off as earlier on - a site with principles which prevent it from kicking out Nazis. Gab's CEO got tossed off twitter for this: https://antisemitism.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Screenshot-2021-10-21-at-13.20.09-1030x579.png https://antisemitism.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Screensh... Which isn't some dogwhistle, inapt wording, etc. It's straight up, plain Nazi phraseology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism#Nazi_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism#Nazi_Germany

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pell 4y ago

>I personally wouldn't consider Gab far right but I certainly respect your opinion there. A story about how Republican Ron Johnson is a liability because he acknowledges that Joe Biden won the last US election is currently in the top 5 on Gab's frontpage. Many similar stories are highly ranked as well. It seems quite self-evident that Gab's main audience leans conservative (in the American sense) and that conspiracy theories à "stolen election" are quite popular there. These do seem quite "far right" to me even if they might have mainstream support at the moment. Another of your default options is "BitChute" which is a platform for similar content.

nyx 4y ago

Gab's userbase is described as far right in the lede of its Wikipedia article[0], which goes on to justify that descriptor by describing the types of views (neo-Nazism, white nationalism, antisemitism, QAnon, et al.) that can commonly be found there. Among the sources cited there is Fox News[1], which describes it as "known for attracting a far-right audience." To my understanding, Fox News is pretty commonly accepted as a news source that's right of center, and even they've run articles describing Gab as far right. I know it's uncool to do political bikeshedding on HN, but if you'll indulge my curiosity for a minute, how would you describe Gab's politics if not "far right," and are there any spaces you would personally label that way? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network) [1] https://www.foxnews.com/politics/social-media-platform-gabs-website-twitter-account-down https://www.foxnews.com/politics/social-media-platform-gabs-...

CobrastanJorji 4y ago

I entirely believe that you believe that, and that leaves me concerned for you. Gab is well past "right wing" and well into "company replies to the complaints about antisemitism with press statements reading 'JESUS IS KING'" territory. The site's content basically parrots whatever today's Republican most extreme talking point is. I just opened Gab's front page in an anonymous browser, and the first 3 posts were a "Let's go Brandon" joke, a salute to Hobby Lobby for defending Christian Nationalism, and a post about "Ron Johnson is a RINO because he thinks the President won the election." If you can read through this and think "this isn't far right," your perspective has been significantly influenced by whatever media you're consuming, and you need to look into deprogramming yourself.

pvg 4y ago

It's not really important whether one thinks Gab falls under the definition of 'far right' or not. What's clear by now is that it's a site for Nazis rather than what it tried to pass itself off as earlier on - a site with principles which prevent it from kicking out Nazis. Gab's CEO got tossed off twitter for this: https://antisemitism.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Screenshot-2021-10-21-at-13.20.09-1030x579.png https://antisemitism.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Screensh... Which isn't some dogwhistle, inapt wording, etc. It's straight up, plain Nazi phraseology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism#Nazi_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism#Nazi_Germany