I see both of those (and more) used by way way different groups of people here in Switzerland. - e-bikes up to 45 km/h require a "light motorcycle" license (mu

I see both of those (and more) used by way way different groups of people here in Switzerland. - e-bikes up to 45 km/h require a "light motorcycle" license (much like a Vespa does), lights, license plate, and a helmet. They drive (or are ridden? the line gets blurry) on the road like a Vespa. The people on them are generally people that already commuted everywhere by bike, now they just end up less sweaty when they arrive. - e-bikes up to 25 km/h are treated exactly like regular bikes. They're driven by pretty much everyone that wants to afford one - commuters, rich teenagers, grannies, you name it. - I never see electric motorcycles. Every single neither-a-e-bike-nor-an-e-scooter motorcycle is either a Harley Davidson or a sports bike. I know they're not electric because I can hear them both from 3 miles away. - Vespa type scooters are around, but rarely electric. I assume people just keep the ICE ones they already own and switch to something else when those hit EOL. - What's really taken off is electric sit-down scooters. They don't require helmets, are illegal to ride on roads, and lots and lots of 16-25 year olds just ride around on them in the evening every single day. They're styled to look like Harleys etc. to appeal to the rider's ego. It's amazing how they turned "scooters you stand on are for Bay Area dweebs" into "this will make you look so cool, dude!" by adding a seat and trim.