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> This really ignores that many LGBTQIA+ people face serious housing discrimination as well as increased risk from certain kinds of aggressive behaviour. This

> This really ignores that many LGBTQIA+ people face serious housing discrimination as well as increased risk from certain kinds of aggressive behaviour. This is a really interesting statement. How would someone discriminate against someone who is LGBTQIA+ without knowing that they were or not? LGBTQIA+ is not something that can be recognized right away like skin color.

carbadtraingood 4y ago
"My same sex partner and I are looking for a place to rent". "My legal ID says James, but please use Joanna". "Oh this Pride t-shirt? Yeah, last year's was a blast, thanks for noticing!" To say nothing about things like "passing" in the trans community, or stereotypes about gay men and lesbian women.
_gd3l 4y ago
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showerst 4y ago
I know it’s not an ideal source, but search Reddit’s legal advice subreddit sometime. There’s constant posts of people getting eviction notices because their conservative landlord saw them bring home a partner they didn’t approve of.
uoaei 4y ago
rsynnott 4y ago
If you're _living_ with someone they're likely to figure it out. This is for helping people find flatmates. Even for non-flatmate scenarios, some landlords are remarkably nosy. Also, in many jurisdictions trans people may have legal docs in a name they don't use anymore... the list goes on. It's also reasonably common for people to be discriminated against because people _incorrectly think that they are LGBT_, incidentally.
taurath 4y ago
The more recognizable you are the more discrimination you get, depending on the location. Often it also means finding roommates and optimizing for safety before anything else - harder to do when one is say, visibly transitioning in a smaller town. Christians and white nationalists tend to use the idea of LGBT people as examples of moral decay.
bobthepanda 4y ago
You don’t even really need sight to discriminate. Different minority groups get different results from phone call inquiries by voice, because they have distinct linguistic patterns not present in General American English. LGBT people also have their own distinct patterns, though not all LGBT people use them. Also, some visual markers are probably present in the gay population at a higher rate than the general population, like earrings, dyed hair, or wearing clothing not tied to their sex.
alkaloid 4y ago
I like how most of the comments insult you and tell you to educate yourself, rather than answering a fair question about immutable and immediately-recognizable characteristics.
- kayodelycaon 4y ago
  At the time I'm writing this, there are exactly two comments (now three) on this thread that aren't an attempt to give an answer. It's best to read things in good faith. On the whole, people on HN do try to be helpful.
JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> How would someone discriminate against someone who is LGBTQIA+ without knowing that they were or not? I’m assuming one doesn’t want to learn their flatmate is a raging homophobe the first time someone of the same sex is brought around.

carbadtraingood 4y ago

"My same sex partner and I are looking for a place to rent". "My legal ID says James, but please use Joanna". "Oh this Pride t-shirt? Yeah, last year's was a blast, thanks for noticing!" To say nothing about things like "passing" in the trans community, or stereotypes about gay men and lesbian women.

_gd3l 4y ago

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showerst 4y ago

I know it’s not an ideal source, but search Reddit’s legal advice subreddit sometime. There’s constant posts of people getting eviction notices because their conservative landlord saw them bring home a partner they didn’t approve of.

uoaei 4y ago

rsynnott 4y ago

If you're _living_ with someone they're likely to figure it out. This is for helping people find flatmates. Even for non-flatmate scenarios, some landlords are remarkably nosy. Also, in many jurisdictions trans people may have legal docs in a name they don't use anymore... the list goes on. It's also reasonably common for people to be discriminated against because people _incorrectly think that they are LGBT_, incidentally.

taurath 4y ago

The more recognizable you are the more discrimination you get, depending on the location. Often it also means finding roommates and optimizing for safety before anything else - harder to do when one is say, visibly transitioning in a smaller town. Christians and white nationalists tend to use the idea of LGBT people as examples of moral decay.

bobthepanda 4y ago

You don’t even really need sight to discriminate. Different minority groups get different results from phone call inquiries by voice, because they have distinct linguistic patterns not present in General American English. LGBT people also have their own distinct patterns, though not all LGBT people use them. Also, some visual markers are probably present in the gay population at a higher rate than the general population, like earrings, dyed hair, or wearing clothing not tied to their sex.

alkaloid 4y ago

I like how most of the comments insult you and tell you to educate yourself, rather than answering a fair question about immutable and immediately-recognizable characteristics.

kayodelycaon 4y ago
At the time I'm writing this, there are exactly two comments (now three) on this thread that aren't an attempt to give an answer. It's best to read things in good faith. On the whole, people on HN do try to be helpful.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> How would someone discriminate against someone who is LGBTQIA+ without knowing that they were or not? I’m assuming one doesn’t want to learn their flatmate is a raging homophobe the first time someone of the same sex is brought around.