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Show HN: Launching Sustainable License, an Alternative to Open Source

6 points by mrjn 4y ago

Rovoska 4y ago
>web3 How to spot a dead in the water project, a guide.
- PhilippGille 4y ago
  The license itself doesn't mention it if I'm not mistaken. The monetization module could be anything, like asking you for credit card details upon launch of the software and then charge per usage or time or whatever.
- Komodai 4y ago
bren0xa 4y ago
How would this even be implemented into a project? The license mentions the monetization module but I see no explanation of how this would/should be implemented into a project.
- mrjn 4y ago
  Author here. I'll be launching the project which uses this license next week, which would make it clear how the monetization module works. Stay tuned!
fire 4y ago
I'm honestly really interested in the concept, but I have no idea how you'd consistently implement or enforce it. The blog post's note of: > Thanks to web3, the software can charge for usage automatically and anonymously. is concerning as the definition of web3 being used there seems to be the one bound to cryptocurrency... is the "monetization module" going to effectively require integration with an arbitrary blockchain ecosystem, or is that just an example of one possible implementation strategy? Most corps would avoid projects using this license if the former were to be the case, but the latter is more open ended and could be anything from a phone home with a license server to micropayments (of any kind, no judgement here). Looking forward to learning more about you see these issues being tackled since they're not addressed in the faq as far as I can tell
- mrjn 4y ago
  (author here -- just saw this comment) If someone were to modify the code to not charge for the usage, that'd be a violation of the license. Sure, smaller violations might not be, but any significant violation can be enforced. This is no different from how many projects mix their proprietary code with their open source code (SSPL, Elastic license). How the software charges for this is up to the author of the project. We used web3, you could use Stripe or anything else equally well. If you've further questions, please feel free to file an issue here: https://github.com/outcaste-io/sustainable-license https://github.com/outcaste-io/sustainable-license

6 points by mrjn 4y ago

Rovoska 4y ago

>web3 How to spot a dead in the water project, a guide.

PhilippGille 4y ago
The license itself doesn't mention it if I'm not mistaken. The monetization module could be anything, like asking you for credit card details upon launch of the software and then charge per usage or time or whatever.
Komodai 4y ago

bren0xa 4y ago

How would this even be implemented into a project? The license mentions the monetization module but I see no explanation of how this would/should be implemented into a project.

mrjn 4y ago
Author here. I'll be launching the project which uses this license next week, which would make it clear how the monetization module works. Stay tuned!

fire 4y ago

I'm honestly really interested in the concept, but I have no idea how you'd consistently implement or enforce it. The blog post's note of: > Thanks to web3, the software can charge for usage automatically and anonymously. is concerning as the definition of web3 being used there seems to be the one bound to cryptocurrency... is the "monetization module" going to effectively require integration with an arbitrary blockchain ecosystem, or is that just an example of one possible implementation strategy? Most corps would avoid projects using this license if the former were to be the case, but the latter is more open ended and could be anything from a phone home with a license server to micropayments (of any kind, no judgement here). Looking forward to learning more about you see these issues being tackled since they're not addressed in the faq as far as I can tell

mrjn 4y ago
(author here -- just saw this comment) If someone were to modify the code to not charge for the usage, that'd be a violation of the license. Sure, smaller violations might not be, but any significant violation can be enforced. This is no different from how many projects mix their proprietary code with their open source code (SSPL, Elastic license). How the software charges for this is up to the author of the project. We used web3, you could use Stripe or anything else equally well. If you've further questions, please feel free to file an issue here: https://github.com/outcaste-io/sustainable-license https://github.com/outcaste-io/sustainable-license