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The plain Quaker oatmeal I buy in 42 oz canisters is 50% more expensive than it was 10 months ago. I can come up with more examples that have nothing to do wit

The plain Quaker oatmeal I buy in 42 oz canisters is 50% more expensive than it was 10 months ago. I can come up with more examples that have nothing to do with meat or animal protein if you'd like. One thing you're ignoring is that even if you don't drive a car like myself as well, tangible stuff still has to be transported around. And for food, the war on fossil fuels is also a war on farms using Diesel powered equipment for which there is no replacement and nitrogen fertilizers made with natural gas. We've only just begun to see the effects of these two issues. OK, there is one replacement for there and a lot more people in the world will be experiencing it: starvation.

jeffbee 4y ago
Ah yes, the "war on fossil fuels" in which oil prices today are lower than they were 10 years ago. Nice try.
- Throwawayaerlei 4y ago
  Vehicle users don't give a damn about the price of crude oil except to the extent it makes the fuels they use like Diesel more expensive. Our biggest problem is refinery capacity, it's down 1 million barrels per day or 5% from before COVID which has now abated causing demand to go up. Distillate imports from Russia which were making up part of the gap have been embargoed because of the invasion. Worldwide refinery capacity is said to be down 3 million barrels per day. Natural gas prices were getting bad due to bad policies in China, Europe and the US before the invasion, and CF Industries as one example shut down both of its nitrogen fixing plants in the U.K. last year (the government there arranged for one to reopen so the byproduct of CO2 would be available for other food industry uses). For that matter, 10 years ago is a curious beginning point to choose because another anti-fossil fuel President was in office at the time. Rhetoric is not going to fill empty bellies in the coming months or make my breakfasts cheaper.

jeffbee 4y ago

Ah yes, the "war on fossil fuels" in which oil prices today are lower than they were 10 years ago. Nice try.

Throwawayaerlei 4y ago
Vehicle users don't give a damn about the price of crude oil except to the extent it makes the fuels they use like Diesel more expensive. Our biggest problem is refinery capacity, it's down 1 million barrels per day or 5% from before COVID which has now abated causing demand to go up. Distillate imports from Russia which were making up part of the gap have been embargoed because of the invasion. Worldwide refinery capacity is said to be down 3 million barrels per day. Natural gas prices were getting bad due to bad policies in China, Europe and the US before the invasion, and CF Industries as one example shut down both of its nitrogen fixing plants in the U.K. last year (the government there arranged for one to reopen so the byproduct of CO2 would be available for other food industry uses). For that matter, 10 years ago is a curious beginning point to choose because another anti-fossil fuel President was in office at the time. Rhetoric is not going to fill empty bellies in the coming months or make my breakfasts cheaper.