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I will rail against Jane Fonda. This person is the most responsible person for the situation we're in right now. She conspired with others to derail (literall
by mc32 4y ago
I will rail against Jane Fonda.
This person is the most responsible person for the situation we're in right now. She conspired with others to derail (literally in some cases) Nuclear power.
This is what happens when you follow uninformed advocates from Hollywood. People should learn to despise "influencers." They know little but aim to move people to action based on poor or very poor understanding of the things they propose and base their positions on emotion, mostly.
- hammock 4y ago
- mc32 4y agoThat they might align at times with a better decision does not imply they made a logical decision. In many instances they were making emotional appeals, if I recall correctly. Also, it's to hard to imagine that any of the other Democrat candidates for president could have fared worse than Biden. Bloomberg or Bernie, I think could have done a better job so far. The others were a bit green and likely unprepared for global events, but even so, could one imagine them dong any worse? There is a fair chance they could have done better.
- jen20 4y ago> Bloomberg or Bernie, I think could have done a better job so far. Assuming they had been capable of winning against Trump in the first place.
- jack_pp 4y agoWhy would a senile man who can barely talk straight have a better chance against Trump? If the democrats didn't fear Bernie and would've pushed him as much and as ruthlessly as they did Biden I'm pretty sure he would've won as well
- dane-pgp 4y ago> a senile man who can barely talk straight "Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart..."
- ComputerGuru 4y agoHN loves to assume that if someone bashes a Democrat then they’re big Trump fans. I don’t know GP and I don’t know which way he/she leans politically, but I wouldn’t think that their post should be read as “compared to Trump, Biden is….”
- jaywalk 4y agoYou can bash Trump's off-the-cuff speaking style all you want, but Joe Biden is actually senile. There's no comparison.
- mc32 4y agoTrump spoke like Eudora Welty on amphetamines. It was all over the place, garden-path on uppers; Biden can't seem to properly read off a teleprompter. Any of the other Democrat candidates would represent the presidency better, I think.
- highwaylights 4y ago“THE BEST genes. Everybody says so. You can ask… Ask Jean. She’ll tell you. Jean, aren’t you always saying that? See? So like I was saying we need to drill closer to home and then you save the environment.”
- highwaylights 4y agoYou decided who to vote for because of celebrity endorsements? yikes.
- coding123 4y agoYou already knew this about pretty much everyone.
- highwaylights 4y agoI’m genuinely surprised by this. At most I thought it was gossip for the bored (e.g. “did you hear Kim K is voting for BLAH BLAH BLAH?? She’s right, yellow-tailed Californian sea urchins are people too this is like so important you guys BLAH BLAH BLAH”). People really vote based on what celebrities think? Why?
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- thrown_22 4y agoThe alternative _was_ a celebrity.
- babypuncher 4y agoFunny how people seem to forget that.
- jaywalk 4y agoFunny how people seem to bring it up as if it matters. He was President for four years, so he's got an actual record to be judged on. The fact that he had his own reality TV show before that is irrelevant.
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- babypuncher 4y agoThis was not the case in 2016.
- jaywalk 4y agoWell, it's 2022.
- babypuncher 4y agoYou're right. We've gone from "This guy's only claim to fame is being born rich and starring in a reality TV show, he's probably not going to be a very good president" to "We had 4 years of this guy as president and he sucked big time".
- JacobThreeThree 4y agoMay as well just cut out the middle man.
- misterprime 4y agoSarcasm detected.
- mminer237 4y agoYou can flip a coin and pick the better choice 50% of the time. That's still a better methodology than following celebrity advice.
- Apocryphon 4y agoThe anti-nuclear cause wouldn’t have nearly been bolstered as much if the Three Mile Island incident hadn’t occurred.
- gedy 4y agoMaybe, but its effects and after effects were also blown out of proportion by nuclear power opponents.
- kergonath 4y agoI don’t know, Windscale for example did not seem to have much of an effect, and it was much worse. The way it’s spun in the media has much more weight than the actual risks in most people’s mind.
- Apocryphon 4y agoMaybe because Three Mile is actually American? Perhaps Windscale garnered less coverage because it happened in Britain.
- kergonath 4y agoI am not writing from an American perspective, this is true in European media as well. In any case, you’d think that an accident releasing radionuclides all over Europe would be a better example of the dangers of nuclear than a security system shutting down a reactor as expected in case of emergency. It’s all academic anyway, these discussions are not exactly rational.
- mc32 4y agoWhat happened at TMI was wildly exaggerated by anti-nuke activists. Obviously they took full advantage of the public's ignorance to instill fear into the public such that Nuclear was DOA in the years and decades after their agitative activism. And, so here we are.
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- hnhg 4y agoI'd also consider the possibility that the generations-old and well-connected fossil fuel lobby also had a hand in it. In fact, I'd wager a much larger effect than Ms Fonda and co.
- parasense 4y agoAgreed. Jane Fonda was a useful idiot.
- mc32 4y agoThey could not have done it and would not have gone over with the public without her critical (no pun) marshalling of the movement. She was key and deserves blame. It's like expecting C&H would come around and denounce anyone who said, "ice-cream is great, I love sweets, let's all celebrate with sweets". Sure, if they were ethical, they'd mention how sugar is bad for human health and undermine their company.
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- hash07e 4y agoRail against people that put her in spot. Jane fond is like everyone else. But someone put her in the spot.
- simonh 4y agoThat would be the general public by buying any newspaper with pictures of Jane Fonda on the front page, and giving undue weight to whatever she said.
- jahewson 4y agoThe catalyst is not the cause of the reaction.
- Epa095 4y ago> This person is the most responsible person for the situation we're in right now You can't possible mean this. She is more responsible than Putin? It's her fault that German politicians ignored all the warnings and choose to depend on Russian fossil fuel? It's her fault that we did not start the massive move away from fossil fuel we needed to do 10-15 years ago, and which would have stripped Putin of his fossil power?
- capableweb 4y agoNot sure you're pretending to miss the point of parents comment or not, but in case you're not: They're obviously not talking about the current war waged by Russia but instead talking about the lack of nuclear reactors in the US.
- Epa095 4y agoThanks, by "the situation we are in now" I thought he meant the global energy crisis and the situation in the EU particularly.
- ComputerGuru 4y agoI can see how OP means just that. Nuclear construction went from skyrocketing to free fall after Ronda’s starring in The China Syndrome led her to become an anti-nuclear hyperevangelist. People listened to her and the Three Mile Island incident shortly thereafter could plausibly be said to have been blown way out of proportion with her amplifying voice. It’s not unreasonable to think that if that movie and Fonda’s anti-nuclear bent never happened, nuclear would have become so profligate that nothing Putin did would have given him a hold over the Western energy sector.
- nonameiguess 4y agoWhy Jane Fonda? I know she protested arctic drilling during the Obama years, but other than starring in The China Syndrome, a work of fiction she neither wrote nor directed and was not the only actor to star in, what did she ever have to do with nuclear protesting?
- ComputerGuru 4y agoAfter starring in The China Syndrome she became a huge anti-nuclear zealot and would hold protests and drew lots of attention and bent many ears her way with her stardom and her Hollywood “expertise.”
- mola 4y agoYou let the oil industry off the hook pretty easily. Renewables research have been hobbled for ages because of powerful lobby. It's only in the last decade that it was pushed to the front stage. Nuclear power is not some magic safe thing. It can and will cause horrible disaster and consequences if run the same way we run our energy economy for most of the last 100 years, by pure greed. But yeah, blame Jane Fonda....
- vidanay 4y agoClosely followed by Bechtel screwing up TMI and destroying public faith.