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You INSTANTLY lost me with the fake-scarcity countdown timer. Bounced so fast & immediately looked to see if HN has a downvote button. If you're targeting eng

You INSTANTLY lost me with the fake-scarcity countdown timer. Bounced so fast & immediately looked to see if HN has a downvote button. If you're targeting engineers and sophisticated people you need to rethink that.

13amxn13 4y ago
weird-eye-issue 4y ago
It's not fake if the price does increase when it says. Scarcity and pricing doesn't need to be based on actual physical scarcity otherwise all software would be close to $0 There is no difference from this going on sale and a TV going on sale
- bluelightning2k 4y ago
  Engineered and arbitrary scarcity is patronizing - which will instantly lose any sophisticated technical founder.
  - weird-eye-issue 4y ago
    Practically all software pricing is arbitrary, which is the point I was trying to make. It costs roughly $0 to distribute an extra unit of software (generally speaking) Has no "sophisticated technical founder" ever bought anything on sale before? Give me a break
dmje 4y ago
Sometimes the hostile responses on here really floor me. Maybe think before you type something like this. This is a really solid, incredibly professional and really not very expensive product. I use it all the time. The guy shipped something, and he shipped something great. You may not like countdown timers but jeez, ease off a bit maybe?
- bluelightning2k 4y ago
  It's not hostile, it's helpful. For everyone who takes the time to explain why they bounced, 1000 people did so without taking the time to explain. I am sure the majority of people here who saw this hit back the second they saw the ticking countdown timer. Few bothered to come back and advise against it.
  - dmje 4y ago
    CAPS, "fake", "BS"... ...pretty hostile
    - bluelightning2k 4y ago
      "BS" very clearly refers to the timer not the site. But I've removed it anyway. INSTANTLY is appropriate emphasis. It's important to convey that when you see a 'clickfunnels' countdown timer you don't look past it.
    - throwaway675309 4y ago
      It's "hostile" in so far as they are being brutally honest. You pull this kind of crap, and you get called out for it. This has all the professionalism of a late night infomercial. DON'T DELAY, CALL TODAY! End of story.
- mitchdoogle 4y ago
  The notion of a sale for software and especially the countdown timer is a deliberate trick designed to separate people from their money. Just because many businesses engage in these kinds of dishonest tactics doesn't mean that people will just accept them. People don't like being tricked - it's a very legitimate criticism.
  - weird-eye-issue 4y ago
    It's not a trick. It's a sale. Have you never seen anything go on sale before?
mitchdoogle 4y ago
I feel like anytime you get marketing using words like "fastest", "easiest", "best", "world's greatest", etc, you are entering the realm of hucksterism

13amxn13 4y ago

weird-eye-issue 4y ago

It's not fake if the price does increase when it says. Scarcity and pricing doesn't need to be based on actual physical scarcity otherwise all software would be close to $0 There is no difference from this going on sale and a TV going on sale

bluelightning2k 4y ago
Engineered and arbitrary scarcity is patronizing - which will instantly lose any sophisticated technical founder.
- weird-eye-issue 4y ago
  Practically all software pricing is arbitrary, which is the point I was trying to make. It costs roughly $0 to distribute an extra unit of software (generally speaking) Has no "sophisticated technical founder" ever bought anything on sale before? Give me a break

dmje 4y ago

Sometimes the hostile responses on here really floor me. Maybe think before you type something like this. This is a really solid, incredibly professional and really not very expensive product. I use it all the time. The guy shipped something, and he shipped something great. You may not like countdown timers but jeez, ease off a bit maybe?

bluelightning2k 4y ago
It's not hostile, it's helpful. For everyone who takes the time to explain why they bounced, 1000 people did so without taking the time to explain. I am sure the majority of people here who saw this hit back the second they saw the ticking countdown timer. Few bothered to come back and advise against it.
- dmje 4y ago
  CAPS, "fake", "BS"... ...pretty hostile
  - bluelightning2k 4y ago
    "BS" very clearly refers to the timer not the site. But I've removed it anyway. INSTANTLY is appropriate emphasis. It's important to convey that when you see a 'clickfunnels' countdown timer you don't look past it.
  - throwaway675309 4y ago
    It's "hostile" in so far as they are being brutally honest. You pull this kind of crap, and you get called out for it. This has all the professionalism of a late night infomercial. DON'T DELAY, CALL TODAY! End of story.
mitchdoogle 4y ago
The notion of a sale for software and especially the countdown timer is a deliberate trick designed to separate people from their money. Just because many businesses engage in these kinds of dishonest tactics doesn't mean that people will just accept them. People don't like being tricked - it's a very legitimate criticism.
- weird-eye-issue 4y ago
  It's not a trick. It's a sale. Have you never seen anything go on sale before?

mitchdoogle 4y ago

I feel like anytime you get marketing using words like "fastest", "easiest", "best", "world's greatest", etc, you are entering the realm of hucksterism