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"GERMAN NUCLEAR OPERATOR: WE CAN KEEP RUNNING, ONLY NEED "OK" News clip has emerged showing that Chancellor Scholz and Economy Minister Habeck have been falsely

"GERMAN NUCLEAR OPERATOR: WE CAN KEEP RUNNING, ONLY NEED "OK" News clip has emerged showing that Chancellor Scholz and Economy Minister Habeck have been falsely claiming that nuclear plants cannot operate because of staffing and lack of fuel. They only need political permission." https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1548269133300543499 https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1548269133300543499

freemint 4y ago
Yet, the CEO of the company who owns Isar 2 still hasn't revised his opinion. Without his OK Isar 2 won't run. https://www.zeit.de/news/2022-04/11/eon-lehnt-soeder-forderung-fuer-isar-2-erneut-ab https://www.zeit.de/news/2022-04/11/eon-lehnt-soeder-forderu... So stop spreading one sided information.
- fsiefken 4y ago
  Where is the one-sided information here? Technically the PreussenElektra CEO is Guido Knott, they operate and have a substantive ownership of the German nuclear plants. Preusenelektra is a subsidiary of E.ON, where Leonhard Birnbaum is the CEO you mention. His opinion follows the government decision. In a letter to the people working for Preussenelektra he wrote: "The German government has examined the contribution that the remaining nuclear power plants can make to solving the current energy crisis and, after weighing the options, has come to the decision that nuclear energy should not be part of the solution [..] This decision must be respected [..] I can imagine that one or the other of you had hoped that for a while, as a transitional solution, nuclear energy would still have some way to go." As quoted in "Rheinische Post" (Wednesday edition, 22 june 2022) Now Bernd Guhlich, communication of PreussenElektra acknowledges this in the interview. Without the OK of the government and by proxy CEO E.ON Leonhard Birnbaum nothing will happen. The E.ON CEO is not the decision or policy maker here, that's the government (which is by definition open to public debate). But, and that was the point Bern Guhlich was making (which is not one sided as he acknowledges the decision): Isar can technically run for longer then the end of this year if the government decides to do that. The Bundesministerium fuer Wirtschaft und Klimaschutz (a department of the government) decided against that for reasons Bern Guhlich argues are false: * there is no legal basis * the 3 nuclear plants cannot operate longer without fuel rods Additionally the tweet from Mark Nelson asserts: "Chancellor Scholz and Economy Minister Habeck have been falsely claiming that nuclear plants cannot operate because of staffing and lack of fuel." Perhaps you mean that there are other reasons the CEO mentioned in the article you refer to: extension would be of limited energy benefit.
wewxjfq 4y ago
Wrong. The German government has said that the plants would have to run at reduced capacity now to make it through winter with the current fuel, so they might as well run them at full capacity until their EOL. And pretending that there wouldn't be staffing issues is ridiculous.
- martinald 4y ago
  But the capacity would be much more helpful in winter when the rolling blackouts start (which I view as a near certainity unless the Russia situation improves) than now.
a3w 4y ago
They state that they have arranged for their employees to leave on 31st of december. Fuel-wise, months are feasible. And exit from atomic phase-out is not feasible in the short term. One source, yet three answers here that say the source is mostly wrong by telling half-truths.
- fsiefken 4y ago
  What are the "half-truths" in the public commentary of Preussenelektra?
  - a3w 4y ago
    Running at the start of next year means not using up the nuclear fuel now. The owner of the plant is someone a level higher in the hierarchy than the statement giver in the video, and he/they said, that they do not want to run the plant. Technically it is feasible, says the interviewee. But it would cost the owner money, so the company actually has no interest unless they get compensated, by a lot: the nuclear phase-out means they make the profits, payed by the state, without cost and risk of actually running the plant. If they cannot phase it out, they have costs, and would not be eligible for the phase-out deal money.

freemint 4y ago

Yet, the CEO of the company who owns Isar 2 still hasn't revised his opinion. Without his OK Isar 2 won't run. https://www.zeit.de/news/2022-04/11/eon-lehnt-soeder-forderung-fuer-isar-2-erneut-ab https://www.zeit.de/news/2022-04/11/eon-lehnt-soeder-forderu... So stop spreading one sided information.

fsiefken 4y ago
Where is the one-sided information here? Technically the PreussenElektra CEO is Guido Knott, they operate and have a substantive ownership of the German nuclear plants. Preusenelektra is a subsidiary of E.ON, where Leonhard Birnbaum is the CEO you mention. His opinion follows the government decision. In a letter to the people working for Preussenelektra he wrote: "The German government has examined the contribution that the remaining nuclear power plants can make to solving the current energy crisis and, after weighing the options, has come to the decision that nuclear energy should not be part of the solution [..] This decision must be respected [..] I can imagine that one or the other of you had hoped that for a while, as a transitional solution, nuclear energy would still have some way to go." As quoted in "Rheinische Post" (Wednesday edition, 22 june 2022) Now Bernd Guhlich, communication of PreussenElektra acknowledges this in the interview. Without the OK of the government and by proxy CEO E.ON Leonhard Birnbaum nothing will happen. The E.ON CEO is not the decision or policy maker here, that's the government (which is by definition open to public debate). But, and that was the point Bern Guhlich was making (which is not one sided as he acknowledges the decision): Isar can technically run for longer then the end of this year if the government decides to do that. The Bundesministerium fuer Wirtschaft und Klimaschutz (a department of the government) decided against that for reasons Bern Guhlich argues are false: * there is no legal basis * the 3 nuclear plants cannot operate longer without fuel rods Additionally the tweet from Mark Nelson asserts: "Chancellor Scholz and Economy Minister Habeck have been falsely claiming that nuclear plants cannot operate because of staffing and lack of fuel." Perhaps you mean that there are other reasons the CEO mentioned in the article you refer to: extension would be of limited energy benefit.

wewxjfq 4y ago

Wrong. The German government has said that the plants would have to run at reduced capacity now to make it through winter with the current fuel, so they might as well run them at full capacity until their EOL. And pretending that there wouldn't be staffing issues is ridiculous.

martinald 4y ago
But the capacity would be much more helpful in winter when the rolling blackouts start (which I view as a near certainity unless the Russia situation improves) than now.

a3w 4y ago

They state that they have arranged for their employees to leave on 31st of december. Fuel-wise, months are feasible. And exit from atomic phase-out is not feasible in the short term. One source, yet three answers here that say the source is mostly wrong by telling half-truths.

fsiefken 4y ago
What are the "half-truths" in the public commentary of Preussenelektra?
- a3w 4y ago
  Running at the start of next year means not using up the nuclear fuel now. The owner of the plant is someone a level higher in the hierarchy than the statement giver in the video, and he/they said, that they do not want to run the plant. Technically it is feasible, says the interviewee. But it would cost the owner money, so the company actually has no interest unless they get compensated, by a lot: the nuclear phase-out means they make the profits, payed by the state, without cost and risk of actually running the plant. If they cannot phase it out, they have costs, and would not be eligible for the phase-out deal money.