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What does it have to do with anything? Import oriented agriculture/livestock is not really serving the local economy or making the country grow. Like other pos

by ratww 4y ago

What does it have to do with anything? Import oriented agriculture/livestock is not really serving the local economy or making the country grow. Like other poster said, "Brazil had no trouble to grow in 90s and 2000s while reducing Amazon deforestation". People used to eat meat in Brazil every day, now even some middle class people had to reduce due to prices. The same goes for gas. That's because the economy changed heavily to favour primary sector exports at the detriment of every other activity. Agriculture and Livestock were benefited at the detriment of every other sector. EDIT: I wouldn't be able to even dream about buying the device I'm currently using if I were still working as a software engineer in Brazil, dude! I had to immigrate, as have about >60% of the co-workers I had in the last 10-ish years. The economical bullshit you're currently defending was shit even for people in well paying positions. However I was lucky, as my parents were immigrants themselves and I have foreign citizenship due to that. Some people weren't as lucky!

lvass 4y ago
If you don't understand how the vast majority of goods made in your country helps your economy, you terribly need to read some economic theory. I suggest Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. Brazil didn't suddenly deinvest other sectors out of a whim, they became less relevant thanks to economic pressure. To assume otherwise is accusing the entire country of incredible stupidity, which is laughable when you demonstrate so much lack of knowledge.
- ratww 4y ago
  Oh nice, more condescension. I'll let it pass. Here's a real reply: This might work in aggregate, but doesn't really help the average Brazilian, nor makes the country become developed. If the economic measures are only favouring the primary sector, the "vast majority of goods made in [my] country" is only making money for an extremely small part of the population. Plus, these measures are causing shrinkage of other sectors that actually would help the population richness grow. What is happening only favours people in the primary sector (which isn't really employing that much people despite continuous growth) and richer countries buying cheaply for us. Hypocrites who want Brazil to keep being a giant farm/ranch of the world selling cheap stuff are a problem as big as the country's government. Go away with your colonialism.
  - lvass 4y ago
    - ratww 4y ago
      Alright, so now it seems I want Zimbabwe-style Socialism in Brazil, whatever that means. It seems you're too busy putting words in my mouth to care about what I wrote, so goodbye I guess. EDIT: Rightfully flagged/dead and I didn't even had to flag it myself. Nice. There should be no room for this type of discourse on HN.

by ratww 4y ago

lvass 4y ago

If you don't understand how the vast majority of goods made in your country helps your economy, you terribly need to read some economic theory. I suggest Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. Brazil didn't suddenly deinvest other sectors out of a whim, they became less relevant thanks to economic pressure. To assume otherwise is accusing the entire country of incredible stupidity, which is laughable when you demonstrate so much lack of knowledge.

ratww 4y ago
Oh nice, more condescension. I'll let it pass. Here's a real reply: This might work in aggregate, but doesn't really help the average Brazilian, nor makes the country become developed. If the economic measures are only favouring the primary sector, the "vast majority of goods made in [my] country" is only making money for an extremely small part of the population. Plus, these measures are causing shrinkage of other sectors that actually would help the population richness grow. What is happening only favours people in the primary sector (which isn't really employing that much people despite continuous growth) and richer countries buying cheaply for us. Hypocrites who want Brazil to keep being a giant farm/ranch of the world selling cheap stuff are a problem as big as the country's government. Go away with your colonialism.
- lvass 4y ago
  - ratww 4y ago
    Alright, so now it seems I want Zimbabwe-style Socialism in Brazil, whatever that means. It seems you're too busy putting words in my mouth to care about what I wrote, so goodbye I guess. EDIT: Rightfully flagged/dead and I didn't even had to flag it myself. Nice. There should be no room for this type of discourse on HN.