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This isn't really a good comparison. We have the same number of Disneylands and MLB teams that we did in 1960 with double the population. Not to mention incre

by treis 4y ago

This isn't really a good comparison. We have the same number of Disneylands and MLB teams that we did in 1960 with double the population. Not to mention increased international tourism to a place like Disneyland. And a box of candy, tub of popcorn, and sodas have gotten significantly bigger than 1960. A lot of places like LA are significantly worse than they used to be. But flyover country still has pretty cheap living. My local Six Flags + Water Park season pass including parking was $80 per head this year as an example. That's a lot cheaper than $1k for a single visit to Disneyland.

loldk 4y ago
dfmooreqqq 4y ago
In 1960, we had 16 MLB teams [1]. We currently have 30 [2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_in_baseball https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_in_baseball 2. https://www.espn.com/mlb/standings https://www.espn.com/mlb/standings
- treis 4y ago
  Wow I didn't realize so many teams were that new.
hourago 4y ago
oneoff786 4y ago
That feels like you’re identifying a cause, not invalidating the comparison?
bombcar 4y ago
Even Disneyland isn't insanely expensive for those who live locally - they have a "California Resident" pass to encourage locals to go during down times. What makes it expensive is airfare and hotel added on top of the tickets.
- syspec 4y ago
  What makes it expensive is the price, as outlined in the article.
- annoyingnoob 4y ago
  If you want a subscription that you pay monthly, and you can go during the week, and forget about going at popular/busy times or to seasonal attractions.
- StrictDabbler 4y ago
  Disney cancelled the old California resident program during the Covid shakeup. The California-specific Magic Key was much more restricted than the old locals pass, clogged with blackout days. It was $399/person. It's long been sold out and nobody knows when they'll sell more. They now offer these tickets to California residents: * 3-Day (Monday-Thursday), 1-Park Per Day Ticket – $249 ($83/Day) Not Valid for Admission on Fridays to Sundays * 3-Day (Monday-Sunday), 1-Park Per Day Ticket – $299 ($100/Day) No Blockout Dates Apply A standard non-california 3-day single-park ticket is $330, so you're only saving $10 a day being a local. The whole California local thing is basically gone except for the hotel/flight advantage.
- mlyle 4y ago
  As a sibling comment posts out, this is gone. Disney has no reason to price discriminate in favor of locals-- indeed, locals don't buy as many souvenirs, etc.
PaulHoule 4y ago
I don't know about the Anaheim location but Disney has dramatically expanded their Florida park since it opened in 1971 and a large number of competing theme parks have been built in the area.
- bombcar 4y ago
  Anaheim added a whole second park (California Adventure) and Magic Mountain added a water park. This allows them to sell "single park" and "park hopper" tickets to further price segment. For a single day, I'd do a single ticket, one park is hard to "complete" in a day.
mgas 4y ago
Also, there is Disney World, and EuroDisney, and hundreds of other non-Disney theme parks throughout the US and worldwide. Disney is setting a price that keeps them at the upper echelon of theme parks, whether the experience itself is deserving or not.
vel0city 4y ago
Disney World didn't open until 1971, 11 years after your 1960. So just with that, we actually have 2x more Disney's than we did in 1960. But in reality there's actually a lot more. Epcot opened in 1982. Hollywood Studios and Typhoon Lagoon opened in 1989. Blizzard Beach opened in 1995. Animal Kingdom opened in 1998. California Adventure opened in 2001. These are only the parks in the US, not including the parks overseas. On top of that a few of these parks have had a good bit of expansion since their original opening, there has been more engineering to increase effective capacity of the rides, etc. Disney alone can move a lot more people through a Disney park every day than they could in 1960. And then this ignores all the other theme parks which opened since Disney. Universal Orlando Resort opened in 1990. Universal's Islands of Adventure opened in 1999. Kings Island opened in '71. Carowinds opened in '73. Six Flags alone has 11 theme parks they still operate which opened after 1960, and all water parks they operate opened after 1960. Our stock of amusement parks has increased a ton since 1960.
- treis 4y ago
  That's my point. They're comparing Disney to Disney prices but neglecting the other options. Tickets for my local six flags are less than the inflation Disney prices and you can get annual passes with parking for the equivalent of two tickets.

by treis 4y ago

loldk 4y ago

dfmooreqqq 4y ago

In 1960, we had 16 MLB teams [1]. We currently have 30 [2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_in_baseball https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_in_baseball 2. https://www.espn.com/mlb/standings https://www.espn.com/mlb/standings

treis 4y ago
Wow I didn't realize so many teams were that new.

hourago 4y ago

oneoff786 4y ago

That feels like you’re identifying a cause, not invalidating the comparison?

bombcar 4y ago

Even Disneyland isn't insanely expensive for those who live locally - they have a "California Resident" pass to encourage locals to go during down times. What makes it expensive is airfare and hotel added on top of the tickets.

syspec 4y ago
What makes it expensive is the price, as outlined in the article.
annoyingnoob 4y ago
If you want a subscription that you pay monthly, and you can go during the week, and forget about going at popular/busy times or to seasonal attractions.
StrictDabbler 4y ago
Disney cancelled the old California resident program during the Covid shakeup. The California-specific Magic Key was much more restricted than the old locals pass, clogged with blackout days. It was $399/person. It's long been sold out and nobody knows when they'll sell more. They now offer these tickets to California residents: * 3-Day (Monday-Thursday), 1-Park Per Day Ticket – $249 ($83/Day) Not Valid for Admission on Fridays to Sundays * 3-Day (Monday-Sunday), 1-Park Per Day Ticket – $299 ($100/Day) No Blockout Dates Apply A standard non-california 3-day single-park ticket is $330, so you're only saving $10 a day being a local. The whole California local thing is basically gone except for the hotel/flight advantage.
mlyle 4y ago
As a sibling comment posts out, this is gone. Disney has no reason to price discriminate in favor of locals-- indeed, locals don't buy as many souvenirs, etc.

PaulHoule 4y ago

I don't know about the Anaheim location but Disney has dramatically expanded their Florida park since it opened in 1971 and a large number of competing theme parks have been built in the area.

bombcar 4y ago
Anaheim added a whole second park (California Adventure) and Magic Mountain added a water park. This allows them to sell "single park" and "park hopper" tickets to further price segment. For a single day, I'd do a single ticket, one park is hard to "complete" in a day.

mgas 4y ago

Also, there is Disney World, and EuroDisney, and hundreds of other non-Disney theme parks throughout the US and worldwide. Disney is setting a price that keeps them at the upper echelon of theme parks, whether the experience itself is deserving or not.

vel0city 4y ago

Disney World didn't open until 1971, 11 years after your 1960. So just with that, we actually have 2x more Disney's than we did in 1960. But in reality there's actually a lot more. Epcot opened in 1982. Hollywood Studios and Typhoon Lagoon opened in 1989. Blizzard Beach opened in 1995. Animal Kingdom opened in 1998. California Adventure opened in 2001. These are only the parks in the US, not including the parks overseas. On top of that a few of these parks have had a good bit of expansion since their original opening, there has been more engineering to increase effective capacity of the rides, etc. Disney alone can move a lot more people through a Disney park every day than they could in 1960. And then this ignores all the other theme parks which opened since Disney. Universal Orlando Resort opened in 1990. Universal's Islands of Adventure opened in 1999. Kings Island opened in '71. Carowinds opened in '73. Six Flags alone has 11 theme parks they still operate which opened after 1960, and all water parks they operate opened after 1960. Our stock of amusement parks has increased a ton since 1960.

treis 4y ago
That's my point. They're comparing Disney to Disney prices but neglecting the other options. Tickets for my local six flags are less than the inflation Disney prices and you can get annual passes with parking for the equivalent of two tickets.