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IMHO places like Disneyland getting very expensive is actually a sign of the large number, and growing, of well-off people. These places are one of a kind with

IMHO places like Disneyland getting very expensive is actually a sign of the large number, and growing, of well-off people. These places are one of a kind with extremely constrained supply-side while demand is huge so prices are relatively high to very high depending on the level of access/Hotel you choose. I am not convinced either that a trip to Disneyland with hotel stay was ever within reach of everyone, especially without a level of planning and saving for it. For many people who go there I suspect this is a once in a lifetime or once in a generation experience.

roflyear 4y ago
Incorrect. You can have an increasing segment of the population in count but the percentage of that population of the whole of the population is decreasing.
bluedino 4y ago
The amount of money you could spend on your daughter on a Disney trip...they have an incredible amount of princess-related add-ons.
- mytailorisrich 4y ago
  As a father to a daughter... you seem to have gone through the experience as well! ;)
- pjbeam 4y ago
  Oh boy, this exactly. We just did Disney World for my oldest and a week of tickets + hotel (definitely not cheapest options) was about 10k. Food and drinks another 2k. Add ons almost 4k. You have to pay bribes to Lightning Lane if you don't want to spend hours in line. And then of course there's so much demand for everything that you basically have to regiment the visit entirely with reservations for everything. Overall it was a good trip but I should have taken time off afterwards to recover from my "vacation".
  - bel_marinaio 4y ago
    $16k for a one week vacation? Am I reading this right?
    - pjbeam 4y ago
      Plus airfare but yes.
tetromino_ 4y ago
> I am not convinced either that a trip to Disneyland with hotel stay was ever within reach of everyone, especially without a level of planning and saving for it. In the 1990s my immigrant family was able to afford a trip to Disneyworld approximately one year after we arrived in the US. We were not poor, but not well-off by any means: only one person in the family could legally work, we lived in a not-very-good apartment in a not-very-good area, our one car was old and used, and all our furniture was acquired from yard sales. And yet we could afford the Disney theme park tickets. (Not a Disney hotel, of course; hotels were overpriced even then, so we drove 1000 miles to Florida and stayed with a family we knew.)
- mytailorisrich 4y ago
  That's why I mentioned with hotel stay. Even today tickets are not cheap but probably still affordable as is your experience. Hotel stay bumps the price quite a lot.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    Tickets are about $80 a day, that's certainly within reach of almost any family that wants to do it. The tank of gas costs more than that. What there is is many more options; when I was a kid we had Disneyland, Knottsberry Farm, Magic Mountain, now Southern California alone has added a water park at two of those, Legoland, and more.

roflyear 4y ago

Incorrect. You can have an increasing segment of the population in count but the percentage of that population of the whole of the population is decreasing.

bluedino 4y ago

The amount of money you could spend on your daughter on a Disney trip...they have an incredible amount of princess-related add-ons.

mytailorisrich 4y ago
As a father to a daughter... you seem to have gone through the experience as well! ;)
pjbeam 4y ago
Oh boy, this exactly. We just did Disney World for my oldest and a week of tickets + hotel (definitely not cheapest options) was about 10k. Food and drinks another 2k. Add ons almost 4k. You have to pay bribes to Lightning Lane if you don't want to spend hours in line. And then of course there's so much demand for everything that you basically have to regiment the visit entirely with reservations for everything. Overall it was a good trip but I should have taken time off afterwards to recover from my "vacation".
- bel_marinaio 4y ago
  $16k for a one week vacation? Am I reading this right?
  - pjbeam 4y ago
    Plus airfare but yes.

tetromino_ 4y ago

> I am not convinced either that a trip to Disneyland with hotel stay was ever within reach of everyone, especially without a level of planning and saving for it. In the 1990s my immigrant family was able to afford a trip to Disneyworld approximately one year after we arrived in the US. We were not poor, but not well-off by any means: only one person in the family could legally work, we lived in a not-very-good apartment in a not-very-good area, our one car was old and used, and all our furniture was acquired from yard sales. And yet we could afford the Disney theme park tickets. (Not a Disney hotel, of course; hotels were overpriced even then, so we drove 1000 miles to Florida and stayed with a family we knew.)

mytailorisrich 4y ago
That's why I mentioned with hotel stay. Even today tickets are not cheap but probably still affordable as is your experience. Hotel stay bumps the price quite a lot.
- bombcar 4y ago
  Tickets are about $80 a day, that's certainly within reach of almost any family that wants to do it. The tank of gas costs more than that. What there is is many more options; when I was a kid we had Disneyland, Knottsberry Farm, Magic Mountain, now Southern California alone has added a water park at two of those, Legoland, and more.